This year I ran my F5kA with two monitors at FD. The first time my typing sent the tuning into the ozone, I simply went into Setup>General>Options and, under Keyboard, I unchecked "Enable Shortcuts." No more problems.
The rig was a hit at our club... W4LX Used 2.0 beta - never saw a spur - the bands were JAMMED with other stations' signals - HA. BTW, last year I had my K3 at FD - didn't miss it this year. What a blast! Russ Moorman AI4OH On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]> wrote: > Focus is a Windows operating system thing, not something that can be fixed > with a simple software solution. > > > > -Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:26 PM > To: Tim Ellison; dan edwards; William H. Fite > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? > > So I guess the short term alternate is to find a simple software solution > to force the keyboard focus to the logger?? > > __________________________________________________________ > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA > Website: www.ky6la.com > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" > "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Ellison [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:16 PM > To: Dr. Howard S. White; dan edwards; William H. Fite > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? > > It would not be a skin, it would be a an entirely new console and based on > the man-hours it took to create the one that is in use now in PowerSDR, I > suspect you could buy a Tesla for the amount of money it would take to fund > development. :-) > > Maybe with DI... > > > -Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dr. Howard S. White > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:11 PM > To: dan edwards; William H. Fite > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? > > I would gladly pay for a contest skin which has a built in Contest logger > as the Flex has so many other advantages once that focus issue is solved. > > __________________________________________________________ > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA > Website: www.ky6la.com<http://www.ky6la.com/> > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" > "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911" > > From: dan edwards [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:03 PM > To: Dr. Howard S. White; William H. Fite > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? > > I would probably have been just as confused if you sat me in front of a K3 > for the first time during cqww, or arrl dx, either mode.....(where's my > panadapter?) ( i have to get elbow cramp again from keeping my hand on the > VFO for HOURS ?? ) > > i think n1mm is supposed to be pretty 'non-mouse-oriented' which is > generally a good thing... > > after a casual passing shot at phone SS with n1mm, i often found myself > QSY'ed to 1 or 65 mhz, losing the contact...my crude 'solution' was to > disable every key in the keyboard menu... > > these flex rigs have tremendous potential for contesting... > > 73 > Dr Edwards to Drs. White and Fite.. > semi-retired h.f. dx contester, with relapse treatments at W5WMU, W5XZ, > dan ( hey, work us in IARU !! ), my small 3 acre ant farm long gone... > > --- On Mon, 6/28/10, William H. Fite <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: William H. Fite <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? > To: "Dr. Howard S. White" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 8:16 PM > As a research methodologist--Dr. Fite to Dr. White--I have to note a flaw > in the conditions of your "experiment." > > The operators were, as you noted, newbies lacking experience with the Flex. > Simply changing from one conventional transceiver to another or from one > logging program to another is enough to throw off the conditioned responses > and the muscle memory of an experienced contester. Why would we be > surprised to find that knob-twisters, having their first experiences with > no-knob radios, would find them unsatisfying? > > I think that there *may* be some issues that *might *make the Flex more > challenging to use in contest situations, that I will give you. But your > experiences as recounted here scarcely justify the dismissive conclusion > that, "the Flex was not ready for 'Prime Time' Contesting." > > It is likely that not many years will pass before SDR contest operators > find that knobbed radios are hindrances to their own performance. Long > range bet? > > As to running the Flex and the logger simultaneously and ameliorating focus > issues, two words: Dual monitors. > > Oh, and mouse fluency, of course. > > A final thought: Why are two computers an "ugly solution?" Since the SDR > can sit under the desk or across the room, what is the significant > difference between two computers sitting side by side versus one computer > and a Yaesu 9000 sitting side by side? > > My experience with obsessed and driven contesters is that no price is too > great to pay, no burden too great to bear. For the cost of an antenna farm > one can buy a whole bunch of laptops... > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Dr. Howard S. White <[email protected] > </mc/[email protected]>>wrote: > > > Ran the Flex 5000 for Field Day with 2 Flex Newbie's who were Very > > Experienced Contest Operators who regularly win major contests. > > > > The issue quickly became the fact that it was difficult to use the > > Flex in a contest environment because the operators had difficulty > > with the focus of the keyboard in search and pounce mode. This was > > not an issue when we held a frequency as we did not have to touch the > radio. > > > > On several occasions, they would be typing into N1MM, then changing > > frequencies, forgetting to move the focus back to N1MM so PowerSDR > > abruptly changed the radio frequencies or bands because they typed on > > the wrong screen...and of course lost the contact.... It became > > highly frustrating in the heat of battle.. > > > > I had the mouse set so that by hovering over a program it would shift > > focus but that was not really good enough in the heat of the contest > > where the mouse needs to be hovering over PowerSDR but typing needs to > > be into the Contest logger. > > > > Bottom Line: They concluded that the Flex was not ready for "Prime > > Time" Contesting. > > > > > > I seem to recall some discussions on program focus on this reflector > > but it is impossible to search this reflector's archives.. > > > > > > A Few of Recommendations: > > > > > > 1. There really needs to be a Contest Skin which removes about 90% > of > > the controls that you never use in the contest...they could be "set it > > and forget it" in the main form and hidden during contests..... You > > really only use frequency via mouse wheel, band, filters. > > > > 2. The Contest Skin needs to integrate a contest logging program > such > > as N1MM or Writelog into the Skin so that you never have to switch > > programs...ideally the logger should show inside the skin. > > > > 3. In the alternative, remove the ability of the keyboard to > interact > > with PowerSDR during contests and fix its focus onto the Contest > > Logger while fixing the focus of the mouse wheel on frequency changing. > > > > 4. Or in the alternative, use a second computer for the contest > > logger... really ugly solution... > > > > 5. There needs to be a detailed Knowledge Base Article on Focus for > > contesting. > > > > One other suggestion... move this reflector to a reflector such as > > Yahoo Groups which has a searchable archive...so you won't continually > > have people asking the same questions all the time. > > __________________________________________________________ > > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA > > Website: www.ky6la.com<http://www.ky6la.com/> > > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" > > "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Flexedge mailing list > > [email protected]</mc/[email protected]> > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is > > used for posting topics related to SDR software development and > > experimentalist who are using alpha and beta versions of the software. > > > > > > -- > The proportions and relations of things are just as much facts as the > things themselves. > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing list > [email protected]</mc/[email protected]> > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used > for posting topics related to SDR software development and experimentalist > who are using alpha and beta versions of the software. > > > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used > for posting topics related to SDR software development and experimentalist > who are using alpha and beta versions of the software. > > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used > for posting topics related to SDR software development and experimentalist > who are using alpha and beta versions of the software. > -- russ _______________________________________________ Flexedge mailing list [email protected] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software development and experimentalist who are using alpha and beta versions of the software.
