I think you are missing the point, Edwin.  Tim did not say there was no
other way to do it.  He said that DSP is the way the Flex designers
*chose*to do it.




On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Erwin van den Bosch (PA7N)
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I strongly disagree. Yes CW needs rise and fall times. But there is no need
> for DSP filters to get A perfect CW signal. You can calculate the signal
> without buffers or you can simply use a lookup table.
>
> (The lookup table method is often used in small AVR chips for generating
> PSK31. There is no DSP power in those simple microcontrollers)
>
> Regards,
> Erwin
>
>
>
> On 24-11-2010 15:35, Edward H Russell wrote:
>
>> No problem if you're transmitting a continuous sine wave. But CW is a
>> series
>> of pulses that need shaping by the DSP. The rise and fall have lots of
>> other
>> harmonic components.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:flexedge-boun...@flex-
>>> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Erwin van den Bosch (PA7N)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:31 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] CW transmit Flex 1500 and latency
>>>
>>> Tim, I think you don't understand my post. Please read again or tell me
>>> why you need a DSP buffer to create a sinus wave? CW is nothing more then
>>> a sinus wave. No DSP filtering needed to be able to output a sinus wave.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Erwin.
>>>
>>> On 24-11-2010 13:55, Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You can't have a zero size DSP buffer.  DSP is the "heart" of the radio
>>>>
>>>>
>>> and does other things in addition to determining filter characteristics.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I recommend waiting for CW, Part II
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erwin van den
>>>> Bosch (PA7N)
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:34 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [FlexEdge] CW transmit Flex 1500 and latency
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought:
>>>>
>>>> When I install 2.0.16 all DSP buffer sizes are 2048. For SSB and Digi
>>>>
>>>>
>>> modes I can understand that because the filtering is better with A large
>>> buffer size instead of A small buffer size.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But when transmitting CW I think the DSP transmit buffer (not the
>>>>
>>>>
>>> USB/audio buffer) can be zero because you don't need filtering on the CW
>>> carrier. Just generate a nice sinewave (via calculation or a simple
>>> lookup
>>> table). By doing this without DSP buffers the latency may be a little
>>> less
>>> when transmitting CW.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Erwin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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