I associate them with A, B, and C batteries under the desk...


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Michael Tondee <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I usually associate AM operation with the classic radio buffs or "boat
> anchor" collectors.  Obviously, judging by this thread, not everyone who
> operates AM fits this category but I have to wonder what some of these guys
> think when they hear one of the "newfangled Flex SDR's" on AM!
> Michael
>
> On 2/17/2011 5:44 PM, Kevin Feeney wrote:
>
>> On 2/17/2011 4:46 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to say, same reason people still use CW hi hi...but I must
>>> admit CW is a lot more reliable from of QRP level communication than AM is.
>>>  Anyone tried a 1500 on AM yet??
>>> 73,
>>> Michael, W4HIJ
>>>
>>
>> I've heard a couple on AM, and they sound fine. And while AM is not as
>> good for QRP as cw (or JT65!) it does do surprisingly well. For the last few
>> weeks there's been an AM QRP net running in the northeast on Sunday
>> afternoons and doing quite well. It was started off by some folks getting
>> interested in the Retro75 kits, but has expanded to all kinds of tube and
>> solid state rigs at this point including some throttled down flex units.
>>
>> AM doesn't suffer quite as bad as the numbers make it out to since they
>> usually compare only one sideband. But in practice, with a proper receiver
>> you receive both sidebands and combine their energy back into the recovered
>> audio and get the advantage of spectral diversity in case one sideband is
>> taking hits. There is still a lot of power going into the carrier with no
>> intelligence, but OTOH, it does tend to quiet the frequency between words.
>>
>> As far as SSB with a pilot carrier sounding as good, I remain to be
>> convinced. I think it depends on how you generate the SSB. Mechanical or
>> crystal filters seem to do something to the audio in the passband,  probably
>> relating to the phase shifts needed to get the steep roll offs at the edges,
>> that seems to affect how the audio sounds - and I'm no audiophile. Of course
>> there are phase shifts in the receiver filter as well, and some folks prize
>> the R390 and Drake receiver because of their LC IF filters over the 390A
>> with the mechanical filters and the later Drakes with crystal filters
>> because of their sound. People who use phasing exciters seem to have nice
>> audio, and whatever 'magic' is used to generate AM in the Flex does a very
>> nice job also.
>>
>> When I built large HF systems with Harris RF Communications in the 70's we
>> had 1kw and 10kw transmitters that were capable of SSB, 4 ISB, full carrier
>> AM, and pilot carrier (-26db) AM for use with the RF550 receivers with
>> synchronous detectors. They sounded good, but not as good as a nice plate
>> modulated AM signal, or a Flex.
>>
>> No matter what equipment you use, AM is fun. One thing I especially like
>> about it is that it puts me in contact with folks who have often followed a
>> similar path through ham radio - starting off in the era of AM and tubes,
>> and with people who very often build and modify their own equipment and who
>> really know what's going on inside of the box. It's a nice community. Plus
>> it just plain sounds good. There's a time and place for punchy, 'space
>> shuttle' audio with minimal bandwidth, but when I just want to hang out and
>> chat with friends, I find it fatiguing and eventually annoying. I much
>> prefer AM or FM for relaxed casual conversation.
>>
>> I purchased my Flex 5000 specifically with AM operation in mind. I like
>> all modes, but good AM performance was on my requirements list and the Flex
>> 5000 does a pretty good job at delivering.
>>
>> 73 de Kevin, WB2EMS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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