John Wojnaroski wrote:
 > On the 747 YASim model, have not been able to slow to a resonable
 > approach speed < 150kts and maintain altitude, run out of elevator
 > authority around 184 kts and flap settings seem to have no effect. The
 > numbers I have in my 747 flight manual don't match up with what I'm
 > seeing in the sim. For example, for 450k lbs, landing speed at full
 > flap/slat setting is 128kts. It won't fly at that speed!

Certainly not, when it's gross weight is 800k lbs.  :)

The weight you quote is close to the zero-fuel weight, which is
typical for landing.  By default, YASim will top your tanks off at
startup.  The plane in this condition will indeed have a very high
approach speed.  Try setting the /sim/fuel-fraction property to
something like 0.2 for a reasonable approach configuration.

Your problems with the lack of elevator authority seem real, though.
You could try tuning the "effectiveness" property of the hstab
definition, like so:

   <hstab ... effectiveness="2"> <!-- Give it 2x as much force
                                      per surface area -->

I'm not sure what the AoA produced by max back-yoke in a 747 is.  It
looks like the YASim model tops out at around 16 degrees, which is
probably not enough.

 > Or any of the reference landing speeds for that matter. Realize the
 > model is not intended to be *right-on*, but closer would be
 > nice. (Using the 0.7.9 official release)

Undeniably.  Unfortunately, the only way to get it closer is to have
people work on and provide feedback for the models.  I'll freely admit
that I don't spend much time in the 747 model, because big jets don't
push my buttons.

Andy

-- 
Andrew J. Ross                NextBus Information Systems
Senior Software Engineer      Emeryville, CA
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