On 08 Dec 2002 17:47:18 -0500, 
Luke Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<1039387637.8399.40.camel@dhcp-11-5>:

> On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:33, David Megginson wrote:
> > Luke Scharf writes:
> > 
> >  > I figured that I'd take the pictures myself at whatever
> >  > resolution makes sense.  It's a good excuse to go flying.  :-)
> > 
> > Can you take pictures straight down?  I guess it would be possible
> > with a high-winged plane and a ferociously-steep bank.

..take your pix at intervals to have a say 80 % overlap to do a 3d
stereo scenery.  The intervals should be a function of height over the
ground rather than altitude, and groundspeed, to keep those overlaps
fixed.  Also, we tend to see the walls of buildings at a distance, 
with the far side walls and roofs "overhanging the hidden streets", 
so the next generation 3D scenery will need _slanted_ snaps.

..rsync'ing with TerraGear to save disk space?  TerraGear to help find
un-built scenery?  ;-)

> I usually rent a Cessna 172, so a well-coordinated 45 degree bank
> might work.  Once that's established, my passenger might be able to
> hold the camera so that it's perpendicular to the ground.  Or, I could
> just find a plane with a camera port.

..aside for the coolness factor, yes.  You have the 2 mains legs and a
ditto pair of wing struts.  At least the mains legs can usually carry 
lightweight cameras, the wing struts will of course provide a smoother
ride for the cameras, assuming the extra weight don't unduly move strut
or other structural resonance frequencies.  On buying your own 150, you
can put a wee camera in between the landing lamps.  

..then we have the club planes, with a well done scheeme, we can have 
club people help build more scenery.  This warrants developing an
airborne scenery builder kit.  In this same line of thought, I propose 
Oshkosh, WI as a good place to build soon, to help reel in the 
1.1 mill EAA membership, details us in http://eaa.org/.  ;-)

> >  > So, assuming that I have a TIFF or a JPEG, where do I go next?
> > 
> > Don't use JPEG -- stick to something lossless.  You'll have to

..tiff will do fine on (lossless!) compression.  Png?

> > download TerraGear and dig through the source, looking for
> > explanatory comments, unless Curt documented it all somewhere.

..also have a look at http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ to place your
pictures on our planet model, I suspect some "six state Kalman filter
producing attitude estimates from the accelerometer and gyro readings",
might be helpful.  Myself, I'd like their video code as a future FG
--with-low-end-svga-video compile option for my old laptops, and they
could use our OpenGL video for their ground station nodes.

..http://www.u-dynamics.com/aerosim/ is a commersial alternative.

> I'll give it a shot!  Thanks!
> 
> >  > I'm struggling to get the down payment together for a Cessna
> >  > 150... Flightgear is a lot cheaper!
> > 
> > Good luck.  Why not go for a 140 and do the taildragger thing as
> > well? The polished aluminum ones look very spiffy.
> 
> :-)~
> 
> -Luke
> 


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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