On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 18:32, Norman Vine wrote:
> Tony Peden writes:
> > On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 17:43, Norman Vine wrote:
> > > Tony Peden writes:
> >
> > > > The implementation of the c172 in JSBSim is such that the elevator
> > > > *does* move.  It just doesn't feedback into the elevator
> > > > command that's displayed on the panel.
> > >
> > > Exactly !
> > >
> > > OK - This is what I am trying to feret out
> > >
> > > How should this feedback be modeled ??
> > >
> > > Or asked another way given the lack of feedback should the AP be
> > > operating on the Elevator Control directly rather then the elevator trim
> > > And the trim left as a mechanism that allows setting the offset from the
> > > 'neutral' position of the Elevator with respect to the standard
> > positioning
> >
> > In the case of JSBSim, just look at elevator-pos rather than what's fed
> > into elevator-cmd.
> 
> Sounds simple and AFAIK we are already reading the elevator-pos from
> all of the FDMs for instrument positioning but ...

I think FG reads the elevator command before it even goes to the FDM.
It is *definitely* not reading the actual surface position from JSBSim.


> 
> The problem is that it is the elevator_trim that is being adjusted by the
> autopilot ...
> 
> > There may be some details to work out, but once that's done the trim
> > indicator should show the neutral (or hands-off) position of the
> > elevator.
> 
> So my guess is that my 'turnbuckle' analogy below is what is wanted
> but this is a rather major, albeit relatively simple to implement, change
> in the logic and am trying to make sure that this is what is wanted.

My suggestion will, I believe, give the desired result.
> 
> > Also, this would be model specific so that the indicators would once
> > again be independent if the trim doesn't drive the elevator.
> 
> :-))
> 
> > > i.e. if this were a mechanical linkage the 'trim' would be a
> > > turnbuckle that could adjust the lenght of a piece of the linkage.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Norman
> 
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