On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:08:46 -0500, David wrote in message 
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> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> > ..these parameters can be set in a config file?  Slowest cranking I 
> > saw start LN-AEB (a 60'ies PA28-140 with the standard 4-banger 
> > and quite likely a ditto vintage battery) was a blade every 5
> > seconds. It was usually a blade every 2 to 3 seconds.  Facinating.
> > ;-)
> 
> So Arnt is suggesting a typical cranking speed of 10-15 rpm, 

..typical for an _a_typical plane.  ;-)

> vs. my

...not too...  ;-)

> wild guess of 30 rpm.  Neither one is blindingly fast.  His worst case
> example was 6 rpm.

..say 5 thru 300 rpm, for all piston engines.  I have _once_ seen an
engine unable to fire below 300, my Quadra|JoBu 361, with a pointless
chain saw ignition, which served me a tennis elbow after an hour or so
of pointless hand propping, it was too heavy for my 24V Sullivan and
ripping off the cowling and yanking a string off the flywheel ofcourse
had it purring on the first try.  The damn thing refused to fire below
3000 rpm, for pointless chain saw safety!

> I'll mention again that once the engine fires, the jump to normal RPM
> is pretty-much instantaneous -- there's no gradual spin-up over a few
> of seconds.

..correct., its over the next few firing cylinder charges, to take them
from crank to idle speeds.
 
> > ..do we model the compression's effect on crank speed fluctuation?
> 
> We're a long way from anything like that.  Right now, it's basically
> just a fancy animation.  If we wanted to model engine starts properly,
> we'd have to model each cylinder individually.  That would also allow
> the engine to (possibly) run rough when leaned, based on different
> air/fuel distribution to different cylinders, etc. (at least until we
> installed virtual GAMIjectors on the fuel-injected engines).  We could
> also model fouled plugs -- that would encourage fgfs users to do a
> proper runup before every flight.

.. ;-)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.


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