Andy Ross wrote
> 
> Vivian Meazza wrote:
> > Thanks for all that: all looks good - the documentation has 
> got a bit 
> > astern of station. Could you explain a bit more about the "turbo" 
> > attribute when used for a supercharger?
> 
> Actually, the existing turbo-mul implementation is *more* 
> like a supercharger than a real turbo.  YASim models the 
> boost as a simply multiplication factor on the input manifold 
> pressure.  If it's set to 2.0, then the engine sees twice the 
> static pressure, etc...  Real turbochargers don't have linear 
> boost-vs-RPM curves, and tend to lag (in time) engine power 
> by a little bit.  A gear-driven supercharger is going to be 
> closer to that ideal.
> 
> > MOI = # of Blades * (8.2*(10^-5))*(D^5), slug-ft^2
> >     then converted to kg-m^2 and finally square root to 
> kg-m for torque
> >     value
> 
> Is "D" diameter?  That looks like the right relationship 
> (linear dimension to the fifth power) for a moment as a 
> function of size, but I'd be *really* suspicious of using 
> that equation for anything else. The .000082 constant is pure 
> fabrication, and will change depending on the shape and 
> density (wood? aluminum? composite?) of any given propeller.  
> A Lockheed Constellation and a Piper Cub sure as hell aren't 
> going to have the same constant. :)
> 
> Here's (IMHO) a better framework: Think of a propeller blade 
> as a stick, with a constant density along its length.  That's 
> not quite right, but for most propellers the "non-stickness" 
> is concentrated in the thick middle, which makes very little 
> contribution to the moment of inertia.
> 
> So the MOI is the integral along the blade length (from zero 
> to "R" -- the propeller radius) of rho*r*dr, where rho (the 
> density) is just propeller-[M]ass / ([N]umber-of-blades * R). 
>  So we do the integral for each blade and multiply by N:
> 
>              R     M
>  N * INTEGRAL   ------- * r * dr
>              0   N * R
> 
> M, N and R come out as constants (and the N drops out 
> entirely), so we have just a trivial:
> 
>   M            R
>  --- * INTEGRAL   r * dr
>   R            0
> 
> Which of course is just (M/R) * (R^2/2) == M*R/2
> 
> So multiply your propeller mass (which you might have to 
> guess at) by its radius and divide by two.  Much simpler, and 
> no magic constants needed.  And you can do it in native 
> units, without looking up what a slug is. :)
> 
> Andy
> 

Like the math - D was diameter btw. How about embedding it in YASim?

I have an accurate figure for the mass of the propeller.

Slug: Unit of mass that is equal to the mass that takes 1 lbf to accelerate
at 1 ft/s2 - that's the easy bit.

Now on with the model until the next question.

Thanks 

Vivian Meazza




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