On Thursday 20 January 2005 16:45, Jim Wilson wrote:
> Dave Martin said:
> > On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 16:13, Jim Wilson wrote:
> > > Dave Martin said:
> > > > On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 14:42, Jim Wilson wrote:
> > > >  getting an aircraft working
> > > >
> > > > > is about 2 parts theory and 1 part voodoo (the part
> > > > > that the basic formulas don't cover).
> > > >
> > > > "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
> > > > indistinguishable from magic" - Sir Arthur C Clarke.
> > >
> > > Ok wrong word.  Let me just say that it seems to lack some
> > > magic.  Setting up the p51d in Yasim was not my original
> > > intention as Jon S. Berdnt was claiming at the time I
> > > started the 3D that he had a nearly working JSBSim model. 
> > > Doing the yasim model was a juggling act that started with
> > > geometric specifications, a couple software patch
> > > submissions, and then an endless number of tweaks. The
> > > "tweaks" were really comprimises that ended up producing
> > > something that was sort of close to performance
> > > specifications, but not really accurate in any respect.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> > Thats litterally what I've just been doing with the B1900D
> > FDM.
> >
> > The numbers in the FDM file don't all match up to the
> > numbers in the POH but the FDM does now match with the
> > *performance* figures in the POH - Which I hope is the right
> > thing to aim for.
>
> The biggest tradeoffs seemed to be in trying to balance high
> end performance, (e.g. altitude, speed) against having enough
> drag to get reasonable behavior at lower power settings.  It
> seems pretty common for yasim models to glide too much
> (excessive lift/insufficient drag) when cutting the power.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim

I've hit that lift/drag issue on just about all the a/c I've 
done.  The degree varies but I mostly put it down to me not 
being any sort of aerodynamicist.

Sometimes I wish for a more dynamic standalone solver so I could 
tweak the settings and see the results straight away.  The gui 
would be massive though, and I'm not sure how the results could 
be visualised - a bunch of converging curves perhaps...

LeeE

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