On Sunday 04 June 2006 08:40, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> Josh Babcock schrieb:
> > AJ MacLeod wrote:
> >> My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the
> >> aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged.  There
> >> are few things more irritating than having the fg screen
> >> fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier deck
> >> or into the nearest windsock!
> >
> > Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake
> > engaged, why don't you just set it in your preferences.xml
> > file? This is the sort of thing that really has nothing to
> > to with the aircraft, and everything to do with the
> > procedures that an individual pilot likes to follow.
> >
> > I always find it irritating when an aircraft designer thinks
> > that they know better how I want to operate in my little
> > world than I do.
> >
> > josh
> >
> >
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> Hi,
> I really did a lot of Harrier flights as I am a vertical
> flight fan. And so I have to state that AJ is right as you
> *always* have some horizontal forces when starting FG/Harrier
> and it is *very* annoying to move off your position if space
> is somehow limited (ship, special terrain) *although* I am
> with my fingers on SHIFT/b immediately and fast (I think at
> least).
>
> Ok, I solved this *for me* with starting FG with
> "--prop:controls/gear/brake-parking[0]=1" but this is not a
> good general solution for other FG users not familiar with the
> property system.

I started setting the parking brake to on for the same reason.

>
> The Harrier in this stage of development is a nice add-on but
> very difficult and strange to handle due to the actual
> flightmodel, that is a pity. But it is as difficult to develop
> like the helicopter flightmodel, I think.
> The newer versions of the Harrier have an artificial stability
> system which makes it a lot more easier to fly the aircraft in
> low speed procedures - may be the force is with us and we'll
> see something like that in FG some day :-)
>
> Regards
> Georg "HeliFlyer" EDDW

Actually, I believe that the Harrier flight model is pretty good 
and is quite faithful to the real-life handling of the early 
Harriers.  Because we can't feel the accelerations through our 
backsides it's almost impossible to transition and hover 
'slickly' but if you're careful and steady it works.  Or at 
least it did when I last tried it a few years ago:)

LeeE



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