Hi,

for airfoil you could check X-Plane- They have a R-22,
and you can easiliy see the airfoils in their demo. 
Problem could be the licence...

Greetings
HHS
--- Syd&Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:08:23 +0100
> Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Betreff:    Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:
> data/Aircraft/R22/Models
> > R22.xml, 1.3, 1.4 paint1.rgb, 1.1, 1.2 r22.ac,
> 1.3, 1.4
> > Datum:      Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:18:06 +0100
> > Von:        Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An:         Syd Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Referenzen:         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Syd Adams schrieb:
> > > Update of
> /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/R22/Models
> > > In directory
> baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13652/Aircraft/R22/Models
> > >
> > > Modified Files:
> > >   R22.xml paint1.rgb r22.ac 
> > > Log Message:
> > > 3d model updates...
> > > FDM updates...
> > >
> > >   
> > Hi Syd,
> > 
> > first just to mention, all what I report is only
> meant as positive
> > feedback  - if not wished, just tell me :-)
> > 
> > a) Nice we have got another update. As for the
> Robinson stick, it moves
> > "normal" like all other helo-sticks.
> > The crossbar is just for changing pilot control
> right <-> left and can
> > be moved up down for optimal handgrip position.
> > In "our" R22 you coupled the crossbar movement
> with the left/right stick
> > movement, that is wrong. The basic stick should
> move into all 4
> > directions (together with the crossbar and grips,
> of course)
> > 
> > See nice video samples:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITIEVTF1Yg
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=308DzvmYNiA
> > 
> > b) to add to my review:
> > Autorotation is impossible and ground-forces move
> the helo. I think this
> > is due to (wrong) counter-acting forces on the
> helo/cabin although the
> > collectiv is fully down. (Maik, please, your
> task???)
> > 
> > Regards
> > Georg
> 
> Hi Georg , no problem .
> I see what you you mean about the stick , I saw a
> still photo of one turned all the way to one side ,
> didn't realise it was an adjustment , but now it
> makes sense ...
> Some other interesting things I noticed from the
> videos  was more vibration than I expected ....
> ...a sideways rocking motion , same as the FG model
> but not as strong (because its so bottom heavy , I'm
> guessing ) .... and the pilot seemed to be using a
> lot of left pedal during slow flight .... so maybe
> the FDM is not too far off ...
> Im still looking for airfoil parameters , and
> eventually should be able to get this more accurate 
>  
> Another thing to mention is that it defaults to 2
> 180 lb people at startup , and I've run across
> several documents that say the 2 person weight limit
> is 140 lbs per seat ....   
> But thanks for the input .... its easy to overlook
> details with things like this :) 
> 
> Oh yes , the ground movement is a Yasim gear issue
> that I dont quite understand too well but I'll work
> on that ... 
> 
> Syd&Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
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