Hi Gijs, a few days ago Jester, simstick and me tried to get the pushback working over the MP-protocol. In principle it worked. But the problem is the time lag between th different users. To avoid ugly oscillations it was necessary to use a very elastic junction between pushbak und 787, which looks (and is) very unrealistic. I think many users would rate this as a bug. At aerotow the elastic tow is not so noticeable.
I think for simulating pushback (or skydiver; anything where a non-elastic junction is needed), we need another concept. The "FDM" of the airliner in pushback (or the FMD of the skydiver while lifting) need to be switched off and the the pushback (or of the jump-plane) need to do all the simulation. Therefore we need to set position and orientation of another aircraft over the MP-protocol instead of transmitting forces. For the skydiver nearly anything is there. We just need one Nasal listener on the skydiver side, which listens for setting position/orientation/speed by the FDM and overwrites this with the values (+ offset) of the jump-plane. And we need something similar at the jump-plane to set the position of the skydiver inside the jump-plane (without the skydiver would follow the jump plane in some distance (due to the time lag)). For the pushback we need something similar. Additionally the pushback need to know the gear positions of the airliner to simulate it properly. But all this should be possible in Nasal. Best regards, Maik Gijs de Rooy schrieb am 21.12.2007 16:06: > Ok, let's try the 787-8 than. > > > > Gijs > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:54:41 +0100 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pushback > > > > 787-8 > > --- Gijs de Rooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > > The 737 is JSBSim - it only works with YASim.> > > > > HHS> > still in work: > > > http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html> But already > > > done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, what aircraft do you recommend? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Bekijk Yes-R's real life soap op MSN Video! > > > > > > http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl&tab=m1192527562294&vid=8aff5b76-b78d-4b55-8b64-ef7e1d73aab2&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:50b732c2-c105-41e9-adf0-36bd627d4eaa,0813da8c-031b-423f-a79d-35d925aee805,5cce447e-948d-43af-9862-45bb6bb9d6d8,6a39138c-f562-4254-be70-9d93343650f8,f9b8d78f-05a4-4c74-8e4b-28d20a4037ab&from=NLNL_Yes-R> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio > > > 2005. > > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/> > > _______________________________________________ > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > > > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es > den schönsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Plan je evenement, nodig mensen uit en deel je foto's met Windows Live > Events <http://events.live.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
