Hello Maik, Am Samstag, den 12.01.2008, 23:49 +0100 schrieb Maik Justus: > Hi Gijs, > a few days ago Jester, simstick and me tried to get the pushback > working > over the MP-protocol. In principle it worked. But the problem is the > time lag between th different users. To avoid ugly oscillations it was > necessary to use a very elastic junction between pushbak und 787, which > looks (and is) very unrealistic. I think many users would rate this as a > bug. At aerotow the elastic tow is not so noticeable. > > I think for simulating pushback (or skydiver; anything where a > non-elastic junction is needed), we need another concept. The "FDM" of > the airliner in pushback (or the FMD of the skydiver while lifting) need > to be switched off and the the pushback (or of the jump-plane) need to > do all the simulation. Therefore we need to set position and orientation > of another aircraft over the MP-protocol instead of transmitting > forces. For the skydiver nearly anything is there. We just need one > Nasal listener on the skydiver side, which listens for setting > position/orientation/speed by the FDM and overwrites this with the > values (+ offset) of the jump-plane.
This is very interesting. I've recently done some work on "detaching" a view from the aircraft/vehicle to have a kind of passenger walk inside the aircraft (which is already possible in the Albatross) and on the ground while the Aircraft is somewhere else. Some of that nasal code could be reused for a skydiver which has to walk to the door prior to jumping (and of course walk on the ground if he missed the landing zone ;-) ). Who is working on the skydiver? I think we have some ideas to share. On the far end, this would enable us to load any vehicle/human model into aircraft that offer the capacity to carry anything. > And we need something similar at > the jump-plane to set the position of the skydiver inside the jump-plane > (without the skydiver would follow the jump plane in some distance (due > to the time lag)). > For the pushback we need something similar. Additionally the pushback > need to know the gear positions of the airliner to simulate it properly. > But all this should be possible in Nasal. > Best regards, > Maik > > > Gijs de Rooy schrieb am 21.12.2007 16:06: > > Ok, let's try the 787-8 than. > > > > > > > > Gijs > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:54:41 +0100 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pushback > > > > > > 787-8 > > > --- Gijs de Rooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > > > > The 737 is JSBSim - it only works with YASim.> > > > > > HHS> > still in work: > > > > http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html> But already > > > > done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, what aircraft do you recommend? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Bekijk Yes-R's real life soap op MSN Video! > > > > > > > > > http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl&tab=m1192527562294&vid=8aff5b76-b78d-4b55-8b64-ef7e1d73aab2&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:50b732c2-c105-41e9-adf0-36bd627d4eaa,0813da8c-031b-423f-a79d-35d925aee805,5cce447e-948d-43af-9862-45bb6bb9d6d8,6a39138c-f562-4254-be70-9d93343650f8,f9b8d78f-05a4-4c74-8e4b-28d20a4037ab&from=NLNL_Yes-R> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > > Defy all challenges. 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