On Wednesday 12 March 2008 08:26, Vivian Meazza wrote:
> LeeE wrote
>
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> > To: FlightGear developers discussions
> > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] New problem with submodels
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For a long time now I've been using ballistic submodels for
> > trajectory markers.
> >
> > When using the trajectory markers, a simple inverted 'T' two
> > line object is created at the aircraft position once per
> > second, aligned with the aircraft roll and pitch axis.  The
> > submodels have no weight, 0 buoyancy and are unaffected by
> > wind, so once created they remain in place and provide a
> > representation of the aircraft's flight trajectory.
> >
> > I just tried using them, having not used them for a while, and
> > found that about half of the submodel instances are rolling
> > over and spinning around.
> >
> > The problem seems to be random and about 50-50, with no obvious
> > pattern between instances that behave properly and those that
> > rotate and spin.
> >
> > As they're all created from the same config I'm at a bit of a
> > loss as to how to fix it.
> >
> > I noticed that the README.submodels doc doesn't include a
> > definition for the <aero-stabilised> tag but it is used in one
> > of the examples.  I've always used this tag as a bool i.e.
> > 'true/false', like the <wind> tag, but in the examples the
> > <aero-stablised> value is '0' whereas the <wind> tag values are
> > either 'true' or 'false'. Is '0' used in <aero-stabilised> to
> > represent a bool or is it now a numeric value?
>
> In theory nothing has been changed in submodels in a long time,
> and <aero-stabilised> remains a bool. However I have been making
> changes in AIBallistic, so the problem probably lies there, and
> I'm investigating. I can sort of reproduce your bug, but here all
> the submodels behave in the same way. If they don't then it is
> possible that you haven't enabled AI Models.
>
> Vivian

Hmm...  I have

--prop:sim/ai-traffic/enabled=true
--prop:sim/ai-traffic/level=3

and

--disable-random-objects

in my .fgfsrc but they are the only AI related things I specifically 
set, and disabling the random objects is probably irrelevant here.

Actually, I haven't updated from FG cvs since mid February, so this 
problem dates from before then.  I'm also pretty sure the problem 
wasn't apparent around early/mid December 2008 because I remember 
using trajectory markers while I was working on the TFA stuff for 
the BAC-TSR2 and I sent the resulting update to Curt on 2008-12-17.

After some more testing last night, I have to revise the ratio of 
affected instances to ones that show the problem - far more 
instances _are_ affected than work correctly.  I'd now guess that 
somewhere around nine out of ten instances are showing this strange 
behaviour, but there still doesn't appear to be a discernible 
pattern.

LeeE

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