On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:52, LeeE wrote:
> On Sunday 16 March 2008 03:51, Syd&Sandy wrote:
> > Hi all ,
> >     I've been trying to change the xmlautopilot to use <prop> and
> > <value> for the u_min and u_max properties , and currently have
> > quite a mess on my hands right now :) The idea is to have a min
> > and max property to control bank-limit / pitch with a panel
> > knob ... setting the u_min and u_max from a property seems to
> > be working , but I get some strange things happening . The
> > pi-simple controller isnt clamped anymore (so i removed the
> > clamp check )... and the output goes immediately to the u_min
> > value...although u_min and u_max are checked every update...
> > Has anyone else attempted this , with good results ? Or ,
> > hopefully , already implemented this ? Anyway , I'll keep
> > plugging away at it, the answer is probably staring me in the
> > face and I can't see it. Is this something that should be
> > implemented anyway ? Cheers
>
> Hi Syd,
>
> one way you could do this with the current autopilot controllers
> is to feed the output from your controller through a gain filter
> to get the range you want.
>
> For example, if you've set u_min/u_max to +/- 40 in your

Oops - that should have said u_max/u_min to +/- 40

> controller but want to reduce it to +/- 20, you'd set the gain
> value on the gain filter to 0.5.
>
> If you don't mind re-tuning your controller, it would probably
> make more sense to set u_min & u_max to +/- 1.0, then the gain

and again above - u_max & u_min to +/- 1.0

> factor would be the required bank or pitch angle limit i.e. for
> +/- 30 limits you'd use a gain of 30.
>
> Changing the output clamps does change the overall behaviour of
> the controller, however.  I found that I got more desirable
> behaviour from a pitch controller (output is a hstab deflection)
> when I set the u_min & u_max limits to +/- 0.25 and then passed

Sigh...  u_max & u_min to +/- 0.25

> it through a gain filter with a factor of 4 to restore the
> required +/- 1.0 range, as opposed to setting the clamps directly
> to +/- 1.0.
>
> Heh - I'm still not entirely sure why this is, actually having
> fiddled with the code myself, but it came about through an
> experiment where I was trying to increase the effective bandwidth
> through parallelism.  I started off with four identical
> controllers running in parallel, the outputs of which were summed
> but then I realised that I could get the same effect with a
> single controller using the gain filter technique.
>
> LeeE

Doh!

LeeE

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