On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Detlef Faber wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 30.11.2008, 23:23 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > > On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > Durk Talsma wrote: > > > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear > > > > 1.9 release on my webserver: > > > > > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-data-1.99.5.tar.bz2 > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Please note that I made an aircraft selection that was based on > > > > various suggestions made on the list, but that -as far as I'm > > > > concerned - this selection is not yet final. I've been trying to cut > > > > down the total number of aircraft in the base package, yet preserve > > > > the variety in feature richness that we originally had. Based on > > > > this, I came to the following list: > > > > > > > > 777ER : Fairly Complete Airliner > > > > B1900d : Very complete Commuter jet, Twin Turbo Prop. > > > > bocian : Our most complete SailPlane > > > > c17p : Light Single GA; our default aircraft > > > > dhc2 : Versatile Tail Dagger, with Aerotowing Capability > > > > Concorde : Supersonic Transport > > > > Dragonfly : Nice ultralight. > > > > F14 : Omnipowerful Jet Fighter; has so many features, it > > > > is very well capable of representing the category "Fighter Jet" > > > > CitationX : Small Commuter Jet > > > > SopwithCamel : Historic Aircraft > > > > UFO : Classified > > > > Zeppelin NT : Airship > > > > Zero : WW-II Fighter > > > > > > The lack of a helicopter seems like an omission. > > > > > > I note that the base package size above is 200MB. > > > > > > I did a quick look at the (uncompressed) size in KB of > > > each of these aircraft, excluding the CVS directories. > > > > > > 5564 777-200 > > > 6208 b1900d > > > 13528 bocian > > > 17708 c172p > > > 6752 dhc2 > > > 20656 Concorde > > > 876 Dragonfly > > > 29428 f-14b > > > 4360 CitationX > > > 14464 sopwithCamel > > > 232 ufo > > > 2148 ZLT-NT > > > 3968 A6M2 > > > > > > As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge planes. > > > I would suggest: - Dropping Concorde It is very nice, but also very > > > advanced for new users. - Replace the Sopwith Camel with the Stampe. > > > The Stampe is much easier to fly, and saves us 6.5MB - Look at reducing > > > the size of the c172p. The Liveries directory is 9MB, and each > > > tailplane texture is currently 1MB. - Adding the bo105. This means we > > > have a helicopter, and the aircraft is only 3MB in size. > > > > > > -Stuart > > > > The size and the easy to fly is a question :) > > > > Since the models are more and more accurate, since FlightGear is more > > and more realistic, don't we must answer to the quality first, before to > > answer to some "game" specifications. > > For instance, yes, the Stampe is easy to fly but not realistic regarding > > the FDM. > > Don't forget we don't make a Game. > > So what is it you are critizising? What needs to be improved to get > realistic behaviour? Making Aircraft is really hard if the only feedback > you get is "not realistic". > > Don't get me wrong, I think an Aircraft developer should be highly > interested in criticism and feedback to improve an Aircraft and fellow > developers shouldn't hesitate to note what they think is inappropriate. > At least it leads to discussion. > > > Greetings > > > Cheers
This could be the content of an other topic, and my answer won't be constructive: Because I don't know YASim , and what can be done with it. I don't criticism, only a fact, => the feeling that we had on board of a stampe ( but, the open cockpit which cannot be reproduced :) ), was an aircraft difficult to pilot, more than a c172 or at that time a JoDel ( the ancestor of the Robin). It was not easy. To propose it in a base package because it is easy to fly, is not a good idea. If we are looking for a model easy to fly, we must at least, take an aircraft which is/was easy to fly in the real life. Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
