> The above applies to everybody.  There are additional requirements
> if you want to be certified for extended overwater flight.
> 
> And no, I'm not making that up, either.  You you can read for
> yourself at e.g.
> 
> http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFar.nsf/FARSBySect
> Lookup/25.801
> 
> If you want really detailed "specifics" you will find that the
> FARs are not overly specific on this topic.  But the FAA guys in
> their usual way have backfilled with memos explaining their
> "interpretation" of the FARs.  You can find some of these by
> googling.


I don't doubt you are basing your statements on solid ground. I'm sure there
are buoyancy requirements, etc.  But, what I am saying is that what
manufacturers are supposed to do, and what is actually valuable may not
necessarily be the same thing. They have to state some kind of requirements
and in good faith and for logical reasons they have done so. In this most
recent accident, the lower fuselage panels were "shredded". I'm sure that
didn't help the buoyancy issue any, though it still stayed afloat long
enough to get everyone out, thank God.

But, are the FAR ditch requirements realistic? Can a two engine airliner
over the open seas with average swells ditch safely, maintain structural
integrity, and float long enough to get everyone safely out? That may be the
requirement, but we have very few instances (if any) where this has
specifically been demonstrated.

Many years ago NASA tried to crash land a 707-type aircraft in a controlled
crash to document (IIRC) a fuel additive and how it might suppress the crash
fire. The test was an utter failure, except that it did demonstrate the
unpredictability of any crash landing - no matter how well planned.

Sure, there are requirements and certifications. I want to see testing to
validate that the real ditching performance of an aircraft works to save
lives in the real world. I don't expect to see that kind of real world
testing, though. As I mentioned initially, though, this most recent "Miracle
on the Hudson" case will be a good data point.

JB



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