On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:17:23 -0500, Jim wrote in message 
<aanlktimff3jaovv3funumvxh3cl-qpm5qf4uufw1b...@mail.gmail.com>:

> Use of trademarked logos on liveries may possibly fall under
> nominative fair use, assuming they are accurate, as depiction of the
> trademarks are necessary to depict a publicly visible plane.   To
> quote wikipedia with my own comments in brackets, and randomly using
> American Airlines as the example:
> 
> The nominative use test essentially states that one party may use or
> refer to the trademark of another if:
> The product or service cannot be readily identified without using the
> trademark (e.g. trademark is descriptive of a person, place, or
> product attribute) [It is impossible to depict an American Airlines
> plane without an accurate AA livery]
> The user only uses so much of the mark as is necessary for the
> identification (e.g. the words but not the font or symbol) [The
> livery is accurate to what AA paints on their own planes, which are
> readily visible as a 'real-life' thing that anyone can see, and we
> simulate] The user does nothing to suggest sponsorship or endorsement
> by the trademark holder. This applies even if the nominative use is
> commercial, and the same test applies for metatags. [Since FG has
> _many_ liveries and isn't just, say, an American Airlines simulator,
> no reasonable person would believe sponsorship or endorsement by the
> airlines whose liveries are recreated in the simulation]
> 
> At any rate, that only applies to U.S. trademark laws, so mileage may
> vary. At any rate I'd think we have fair use of trademarks on
> airliner liveries, so long as they are accurate.  I think you'd run
> into trouble if you made up an 'imaginary' AA livery.

..no, the fair use clause specifically allows satire, humor, 
news reporting, political mockery etc, as free speech, which 
makes it a nice good deterrent of "big biz bullying." ;o)  
It appears I've been in such litigation for 5 years now. ;o)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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