On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:05:58 -0600, Curtis wrote in message <[email protected]>:
> We are trying to find a reasonable way forward, not forget about > anything. No one wants to remove existing content from the FlightGear > project, even though some of that same content would not be allowed > to be submitted by some authors as it stand right now. Because it > was submitted by other authors or was submitted in the past we are ok > with it. Our consensus so far is not 100% internally consistent > unfortunately. > > We have some arguing for a completely pristine "do nothing without > explicit permission" approach. ..which _how_ to make _sure_ we _are_ and _remain_ _untouchable_ by unfriendly litigators. > We have some arguing for a "do whatever we can get away with" > approach. ..which is ok if we can afford proving our case in courts. Average cost to victims of Microsoft litigated settlements is US $3million when Microsoft has _no_ case. > I think a reasonable way forward is to follow the commonly accepted > standards in the simulation community: that it is fine to create > virtual representations of real world vehicles, buildings, land > marks, etc. ..yup. > and decorate them with the same markings they have in the > real world. ..making fair use of the fair use clauses. ;o) > We are trying to have fun and create faithful representations of the > real world. ..making fair use of the fair use clauses. ;o) > If a specific company has a > specific issue, they are welcome to approach us and we will do > whatever we can to accommodate their concerns. ..making fair use of the fair use clauses. ;o) > Our main constraint in creating content for the FlightGear simulator > is that we make sure that our work is our own, or borrowed and > adapted with proper permission. ..making fair use of the fair use clauses. ;o) > As the project coordinator, I have *never* been contacted by any > company with any concern that we have improperly used their logos or > trademarks. I have never been contacted by any company with even the > slightest concern or smallest question. ..and that's the way we wanna keep it. ;o) > Until then, I submit that we should be able to create realistic and > fair representations of vehicles and buildings that are found in the > real world including logos and trademarks. ..making fair use of the fair use clauses. ;o) > To disagree with this > position means that you are advocating that we move a *HUGE* portion > of the content of our simulator. ..nope, only liveries with enforceable trademarks like Red Bull's, Mozilla's, Microsoft's etc logos that escape the fair use clause by being e.g. "too admiring." ;o) ..would e.g. Red Bull _really_ wanna see their competitor's logo on _their_ AH-1? Or, on their balloon pylons? Or perhaps a satirical _and_ satyrical ;o) ( http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/satyrical?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=satyrical&sa=Search#922 ) alternative to their current logo? ..or, _can_ they (Red Bull's etc c-level staff and Board membership) envision a satirical _and_ satyrical alternative new uses following an Iron Heel Rejection of fair use of of their logos in the more satyrically etc exclusive memberships than their intended markets that might warrant more due diligence to agonize over in Red Bull etc Board meetings and to censor from Board minutes? ;o) ..no need for us to worry about that, let's just ask nicely for a boring "Yes." and put the agony where it belongs. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
