Chris wrote:

...<snip>...
> 
> In my personal opinion, knowingly allowing the use of trademarks in
> aircraft liveries without the permission of the trademark holder
> *damages* this Project's integrity.  However, if the consensus of the
> core development team is that this kind of hair splitting is acceptable
> I'll shut up because, after all, I'm just a lowly end-user who happens
> to read this mailing list.  Therefore, my personal legal and/or
> financial risk is fairly minimal.
> 

I'm going to set you all a simple multiple choice test - pay attention
because I'm only going to say this once:

1. I take a digital photograph of you. Who owns the copyright of the digital
images produced?

A. Me
B. You

2.  I take a digital photograph of you standing next to your car. Who owns
the copyright of the digital images produced?

A. Me
B. You
C. The motor manufacturer
 
3.  A professional photographer stands in my place and takes a digital
photograph of you standing next to your car. The images are almost
indistinguishable from mine. Who owns the copyright of the digital images
produced?

A. The professional photographer
B. Me
C. You
D. The motor manufacturer

5. I make a drawing on paper of you and your car from the same viewpoint.
Who owns the copyright of the images produced?

A. Me
B. The professional photographer 
C. You
D. The motor manufacturer

6. I make a drawing using Photoshop or similar of you and your car from the
same viewpoint. Who owns the copyright of the images produced?

A. Me
B. The professional photographer 
C. You
D. The motor manufacturer

7. Do I have to ask permission of the motor manufacturer, the professional
photographer, or you to make or to publish my work on the internet?

A. No
B. Yes

8. I got there first. Does the professional photographer have to ask my
permission, or the motor manufacturer or you to publish his work?

A. No
B. Yes

Right. Hands up anyone who answered anything but straight As. Oh dear - in
Germany apparently I must seek permission from the motor manufacturer. I
expect BMW are very busy handling all the requests. That's probably why they
can't fix mine ... but that's another saga.

Bear in mind that almost all cars have their logo prominently displayed
front and rear. Does that change your answers? Self-evidently the answer
must be no. Otherwise, any image containing any object owned or manufactured
by anyone in the last 50 years would breach someone's copyright or
trademark. Professional photographers and artists could not exist. The art
world, of which we "aircraft developers" form a small and esoteric part
could not exist. Try telling that to http://www.airliners.net/ or
http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/ 


Here's one I did earlier. Anyone want to sue me?

http://img571.imageshack.us/f/lotus7.jpg/


Last question. Does Flightgear operate under different rules or laws?
 
A. No
B. Yes
C. In Germany

Anyone still confused? 

Vivian



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