Hi Vivian,

I'm currently short in time, but some things here are wrong.
I photograph in my free time, and I'm beeing a webmaster,  so I do know a "bit" 
about laws, copyrights etc. regarding photos.

I will come with the corrections up today later.

But the law in germany is not much different than in other countries.

Heiko



still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html
But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html


--- Vivian Meazza <vivian.mea...@lineone.net> schrieb am Do, 3.3.2011:

> Von: Vivian Meazza <vivian.mea...@lineone.net>
> Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing
> An: "'FlightGear developers discussions'" 
> <flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 3. März, 2011 10:43 Uhr
> Chris wrote:
> 
> ...<snip>...
> > 
> > In my personal opinion, knowingly allowing the use of
> trademarks in
> > aircraft liveries without the permission of the
> trademark holder
> > *damages* this Project's integrity.  However, if
> the consensus of the
> > core development team is that this kind of hair
> splitting is acceptable
> > I'll shut up because, after all, I'm just a lowly
> end-user who happens
> > to read this mailing list.  Therefore, my
> personal legal and/or
> > financial risk is fairly minimal.
> > 
> 
> I'm going to set you all a simple multiple choice test -
> pay attention
> because I'm only going to say this once:
> 
> 1. I take a digital photograph of you. Who owns the
> copyright of the digital
> images produced?
> 
> A. Me
> B. You
> 
> 2.  I take a digital photograph of you standing next
> to your car. Who owns
> the copyright of the digital images produced?
> 
> A. Me
> B. You
> C. The motor manufacturer
>  
> 3.  A professional photographer stands in my place and
> takes a digital
> photograph of you standing next to your car. The images are
> almost
> indistinguishable from mine. Who owns the copyright of the
> digital images
> produced?
> 
> A. The professional photographer
> B. Me
> C. You
> D. The motor manufacturer
> 
> 5. I make a drawing on paper of you and your car from the
> same viewpoint.
> Who owns the copyright of the images produced?
> 
> A. Me
> B. The professional photographer 
> C. You
> D. The motor manufacturer
> 
> 6. I make a drawing using Photoshop or similar of you and
> your car from the
> same viewpoint. Who owns the copyright of the images
> produced?
> 
> A. Me
> B. The professional photographer 
> C. You
> D. The motor manufacturer
> 
> 7. Do I have to ask permission of the motor manufacturer,
> the professional
> photographer, or you to make or to publish my work on the
> internet?
> 
> A. No
> B. Yes
> 
> 8. I got there first. Does the professional photographer
> have to ask my
> permission, or the motor manufacturer or you to publish his
> work?
> 
> A. No
> B. Yes
> 
> Right. Hands up anyone who answered anything but straight
> As. Oh dear - in
> Germany apparently I must seek permission from the motor
> manufacturer. I
> expect BMW are very busy handling all the requests. That's
> probably why they
> can't fix mine ... but that's another saga.
> 
> Bear in mind that almost all cars have their logo
> prominently displayed
> front and rear. Does that change your answers?
> Self-evidently the answer
> must be no. Otherwise, any image containing any object
> owned or manufactured
> by anyone in the last 50 years would breach someone's
> copyright or
> trademark. Professional photographers and artists could not
> exist. The art
> world, of which we "aircraft developers" form a small and
> esoteric part
> could not exist. Try telling that to http://www.airliners.net/ or
> http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/ 
> 
> 
> Here's one I did earlier. Anyone want to sue me?
> 
> http://img571.imageshack.us/f/lotus7.jpg/
> 
> 
> Last question. Does Flightgear operate under different
> rules or laws?
>  
> A. No
> B. Yes
> C. In Germany
> 
> Anyone still confused? 
> 
> Vivian
> 
> 
> 
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