> A nice list and it's all worthwhile improvement, but it's all tinkering
> around the edges of existing stuff. There's no step change which would
> justify 3.0 IMO. For that we need something major, like new terrain  
> (850) or Rembrandt as the default. 

*shrugs* 

This would depend on if you're a Rembrandt user (in which case you'd like to 
have a major step in Rembrandt) or an ALS user (in which case you'd expect a 
major step in ALS for a 3.0). From my perspective, it's not tinkering around 
the edges.

In terms of code, ALS has about doubled the number of lines. In terms of 
features, ALS has now all the features that it could theoretically serve as 
default rendering scheme if so desired without major gaps like missing trees or 
model effects - this wasn't the case last time, which is why I didn't vote 3.0 
last time but why I do now. If you're not a user of these features, they 
obviously won't impress you much, but they are there nevertheless.

The way I see it, waiting for a dramatic step will not ever give us a 3.0, 
because if some dramatic new feature is introduced, we'd first want to test and 
observe it, so it will be experimental for a while (so with Rembrandt, ALS and 
Advanced Weather which all didn't prompt a new number before the decimal), and 
then the next release will obviously only see progress on existing things, not 
dramatic new stuff. So, from that perspective, also Rembrandt has by now 
reached a stable and well tested state and featuring it no longer as 
experimental would also argue for a 3.0.


> Right now we have Terrasync partly broken in  
> Win  64, which will probably not be fixed until after the release. We still
> cannot select the Screenshot Directory from the gui. I think that all  
> argues for 2.12.

I'm not sure I follow you that selecting a screenshot directory from the GUI is 
a major advance justifying a 3.0, but a detailed terrain shader is not. I'm 
also not sure why Terrasync partially being broken argues for not releasing 3.0 
rather than fixing it before the release.

But 3.0 is only my (certainly biased) impression. I agree that it would be 
terrific to have new terrain. But I don't really see a date, and at some point 
it seems to me we have added so many features beyond what used to be in 2.0 
that it's now 3.0 - which is, from my perspective, now.

* Thorsten
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