On 17/10/2005 at 13:50 Melchior FRANZ wrote:

>* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 17 October 2005 11:00:
>> A lot of airports have multiple frequencies e.g. for ATIS, and fgfs
>> does AFAIK only listen to one of them. This may explain your experience.

> Tried it out, and I was wrong: all frequencies work, 

The AI traffic only ever uses the first tower frequency - maybe this is
what you were thinking of?

>but some can't be
>tuned in due to hardware limitations of the modelled comm (I suppose).

Yes, some of the ATIS frequencies (eg KSFO's 113.7 and 115.8) are on nav
frequencies.  I've avoided implementing this so far in order to avoid
irritating folk with continuous ATIS messages with the default nav
frequencies!  New users may not know where it was coming from, and hence
how to turn it off.  I'm not sure what the best solution is here, obviously
the functionality would be desirable.  Perhaps we could default the nav
sound to off - in fact, maybe it is already, since I haven't heard the
ident beeps for a while.


>What you have to do, though, is to enable ATC. Otherwise you won't get
>any ATIS messages at all. In the menu, activate:
>
>  ATC/AI -> Options -> Enable ATC
>

This should be enabled by default now.  I believe that it accidently got
turned off by default once, possibly for a release?

>
>
>> All the frequencies are, of course, on your hard disk already. In
>> $FG_ROOT/Airports/apt.dat.gz and $FG_ROOT/Navaids/nav.dat.gz
>
>Umm ... but for ATIS the frequencies are still not used from these
>two databases, but from the old $FG_ROOT/ATC/default.atis file. Strangely,
>these two sources have indeed different views of the matter: default.atis
>has 123.9 instead of 128.07. What's in default.atis is "true" in the fgfs
>world.
>

I believe we've discussed this before, but can't remember what the verdict
was.  The default.atis file pre-dates the existance of comm freq info in
apt.dat.  If apt.dat is as comprehensive as default.atis then we should
switch to that - I'm happy to implement the switch.  Does anyone have a
definitive view on the relative quality of the two data sources?  I'm
guessing they should be much the same, since they both use the DAFIF as a
base I believe.  Robin's file may well have many more user additions as
well, and hence be preferable.  In the case mentioned, which file was
correct?

Cheers - Dave



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