Hello Arnt: An interesting response you have given, Firstly, the 3 old computers are not old, as they function in an office environment undertaking work and they are not, just yet, being made redundant. However, having said that and reading your response, will the computers still be functional in what they are doing, if I were to make the changes as you have suggested?
It sounds as if it is just the alteration to access OpenGL, thus the computer will not be altered and all the programmes already installed will be safe!!! Just need assurance I think that I do not lose a valuable work tool, but look forward to having pleasure when I am on my travels with FG. Thanks. Martin -----Original Message----- From: Arnt Karlsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 6:02 AM To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Update on a Previous Question On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:40:00 +0200, MPCEE wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Andy: > > Thank you for spelling out the differences in plain language. > Certainly it does make one think on what is actually being purchased. > The spec for the Tecra M1 and what it is used for, professionally, was > cost effective as a communications tool. Slightly higher in price than > some, but it is the task that had to be dealt with, not the games > function. > > I have looked at ATIs website for the other two laptops, after > running an update for their respective drivers; both were up-to-date, > yet no help. As Sid has mentioned, manufacturers are not going to blow > their trumpets over OpenGL etc. However, we purchase from specialised > dealers and now one should be able to pose the right questions to > include OpenGL. ..if you're running out of ideas, try get 'n burn 'n boot a knoppix CD on your 3 laptops, you want the english 4.0.2, follow "Download" link from: http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html ..you only need one of your 3 old laptops, and it may be supported under GNU/Linux even if Microsoft has no OpenGL drivers. About 3 weeks ago, I saw a post on Groklaw.net of Microsoft having adopted a strategy or market policy on "not supporting" OpenGL. ..to do a CD boot, you will have push a button, usually Esc or Del or F1 or F2 or F10 etc, YMVV. Enter the menu, find the boot disk menu, and select the CD (or DVD, YMMV) as the boot disk. ..on CD bootup, just follow the advice given, once booted up, hit the penguin menu button beside the "K" menu button, select "Root Shell". ..in the cli/xterm/"DOS Window", first type "glxinfo" (NOT GLXINFO!). This command will mention "direct rendering: Yes" or "No". If "Yes", we're done, "apt-get update ;apt-get install fgfs" will advice if it needs anything (such as an install mirror, I believe ftp.de.debian.org will serve you just fine, I use it to update my own install mirror). ..in the latter case "No", we will need the output of "lspci" , "dmesg" and "lsmod" posted here, to advice further, some video cards need clue whacks and Nvidea even closed source drivers to do OpenGL. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
