On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:33:43 +0200, MPCEE wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello Arnt:
>
> Thanks for the response, but I am not a true computer technical
> person, so that much of what you have said has little understanding on
> me.



>The main question I wanted to know was should I save the download
> to a CD/DVD?

..yes, just make sure the iso image remains bootable.  And I'm not sure
I know the Wintendo language here on CD burning, it is also possible to
burn the iso as a file, and set up a diskette boot image on the CD to
boot the iso file, say if you wanna do a quickie norwegian dvorak CD, so
check with the other guys, unless you're ok with trial 'n error wasting
a coupla CD blanks.

> When you mentioned I can run it from my computer, I was
> not sure if you meant I should download Knoppix to my hard drive and
> run it from there, or save it to a CD/DVD and run it from the CD when
> prompted to do so.

..both.  In the first case you can also boot from a diskette
or any boot loader that can read file systems.

> Sorry if you are just getting over Aviary Flu, I thought it was just
> limited to Windows and FG!!

..ssshs, a wee hint I sometimes take weeks to catch up on my mail,
I've developed my thermochemical gasifier too damn far to stop,
and the newest funding idea is sell it to gas 'n burn birds.  ;o)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnt Karlsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 3:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OpenGL/Windows Knoppix
>
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:09:00 +0200, MPCEE wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Hello Arnt:
> >
> > Thanks for following up for me. I am becoming to understand what
> > this all about now, but need to ensure I fully understand what you
> > have said.
>
> ..posting to the list allows quicker and more accurate responses, we
> have a lot of competent people to answer Knoppix and GNU/Linux
> questions, so there is no need to wait out my sleep or bird flu
> recovery etc.  ;o)
>
> > I can run FG using OpenGL on a windows laptop, providing I run the
> > graphics card from a Knoppix CD.
>
> ..you run the _entire_ laptop from the Knoppix CD.  If something looks
> "scary" ;o), simply kill the power, pry out the CD and boot up and,
> you're "safely" back to Wintendo.  ;o)
>
> ..now, your prudence is warranted, even if Knoppix is a fair bit more
> idiot proof than Wintendo, it is still possible to blow away all your
> business on playing PHB, but that'll take you a wee bit of effort.
>
> > To do this, do I download software and save it on a CD myself, or,
> > do I have to buy the CD?
>
> ..ah, the perils of freedom and democracy:  You decide, there's
> even DE for German keyboards!  ;o)
>
> > I ask this as I have gone to the link of Knoppix you gave me and
> > there are Icons, one of which is a link to Mirrors to download
> > something.
>
> ..yup, we usually choose a high speed mirror as close as possible.
>
> > Further down the page you have the KNOPPIX4.0.2 DVD + CD Released as
> > the heading and I have seen that if one has the bandwidth (I have
> > ADSL) you can download it. Does this have to be downloaded on to a
> > CD/DVD? Is this the release of a few days ago?
>
> ..4.0.2 is a month old, chk the mirror dates and get 4.0.3,4,5 instead
> if you see it.  ASDL will do fine, Wintendos on ASDL is the preferred
> cracker targets, I hear, so you may prefer use it to get the CD and
> then use that to "wget -c" (details in "man wget") the DVD, to
> minimize your exposure to da crackers, word is standard setup
> WintendoXP average 14 minutes online before they get cracked.
>
> ..I dunno how CD burning is done in Wintendo, but check
> http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Downloading_FAQ
>
> ..you can actually boot up your laptop right off the iso image file,
> which is quite handy if you wanna play with the DVD but only have a CD
> player or less:  get both the dvd and cd iso's, burn the CD iso onto a
> CD, and use that to boot up the dvd image with a
> "bootfrom:/dev/hda1/or/whereever/you/put/da/Knoppix-etc" appended to
> the boot command, more details on such stunts in:
> http://knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes
>
> > After this I am not sure where to go, as you mention to boot from
> > the CD, via the BIOS!!!.
>
> ..I did mention F1, Del, Esc, F12 etc buttons to try hit on bootup?
> Some boxes are even left open to boot right up from any bootable
> CD or DVD.
>
> > If you can direct me on this, hopefully I can get this in action
> > very soon. It is nice to know that the computers will not be
> > affected, as they undertake important work, I work on a very limited
> > budget, prior to my retirement this year.
>
> ..ah, hand holding is profitable because it's _very_ expensive, so
> RTFM so you can use them to your advantage and de-limit your budget.
> ;o) http://knoppix.net/  and http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page for
> Knoppix specific stuff, and the FG-user list for FG stuff, several of
> us use Knoppix and/or Debian to fly in FG.
>
> ..to speed up things, get some old box to play PHB on, such as
> screwing around resizing the ntfs partition to make space for dual
> booting, I've never lost data that way, but that does in no way mean
> you can't.  ;o)
>
> ..and, do put Grub on your MBR, it's been years since I last touched
> painful Lilo, it's _why_ other bootloaders exist.  ;o)
>
> --
> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>   Scenarios always come in sets of three:
>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
>
>


--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three:
  best case, worst case, and just in case.





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