Laurence Vanek wrote:
> For my money, the Seneca is one of the best done aircraft in FG.  Have 
> been flying it a good deal of late.  
>
>   
Agreed!

<snip>
> [2]  On localizer during an ILS approach the A/P seems unstable 
> (increasing roll oscillations) when within ~1 mile of approach end of 
> runway.  Perhaps this requires tweak of A/P controller constants.  On a 
> CAT II or III approach one would still not be able to see the runway at 
> that distance.  I usually disable the A/P at DH point.
>   
I have commented before about the difference between yasim and jsbsim 
when it comes to two autopilot issues.
1.  jsbsim becomes almost uncontrolable with turbulence.  Even at 0.1 or 
certainly at 0.2 turbulence, the c172p will not complete an approach 
with the kap140.  So, make sure you have turbulence at 0. 
2.  I spent many many hours tweaking the SenecaII autopilot config 
file.  Since jsbsim (in my opinion) has a very exagerated adverse 
aileron yaw response and most autopilots have aileron but not rudder 
roll outputs, this creates the oscillations.  That is why I put in the 
menu options for the SenecaII a yaw-damper that may help some.  It is a 
controller that applies rudder to try and keep the ball centered.

To see the fdm difference, fly the Senecal II and then the pa24-250 
(which has the same autopilot nasal file and very similar autopilot 
config file) down the same ILS.  The pa24-250 with the Century III 
autopilot will be rock solid all the way to the runway center line even 
with light to moderate turbulence.  The pa24 uses yasim.  You can see 
the same comparison between the jsbsim c172p and the yasim pa28-161 
which both have the kap140.

If you try to tweak the SenecaII/Systems/CENTURYIII.xml parameters, you 
must remember that there are cascaded controllers in this file.  Note 
the input and output for each stage:

Stage                       
Input                                           
Output                                          Reference
Approach hold        heading-needle-deflection          
target-intercept-angle                    0.0
heading-bug-filter   heading-bug-error-deg               
filtered-heading-bug-error-deg
Heading Select        filtered-heading-bug-error-deg   
target-roll-deg                              target-intercept-angle
target-roll-filter       target-roll-deg                             
filtered-target-roll-deg
Wing Leveler          indicated-roll-deg                       
aileron                                          filtered-target-roll-deg

Does anyone know of a jsbsim model with autopilot that will fly an ILS 
with no oscillation with even very light turbulence?

-Dave Perry

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