luteboy wrote:
>     Ah, the Gimli Glider!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_glider
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_glider>
>      >
> 
I intended to search on google later, that's the one.
Regards
Sid.
>     There was a 757 over Canada that lost both engines (source Reader's
>     Digest in my doctor's office some years ago) due to fuel starvation.
>     Both fuel gauges were faulty, the book says don't fly unless at least
>     one is working, but they dipped the tanks and did a division rather than
>     a multiplication which said they had more than enough fuel. As a matter
>     of fact, the steward told the refueller that he hoped they had enough
>     fuel and the refueller remarked that they had enough fuel to fly to
>     Vancouver and back. Flying over a lake, the Captain said "I'm just going
>     to sit here, relax and fish", one engine quit, no panic - fuel pump
>     failure, then the other one quit, "Oh ?*!@, fuel starvation". They set
>     course for Winnipeg, nowhere in the manual was a recommended glide
>     speed, so they guessed 280 Kts. and later realised they were going to
>     hit the ground 10nm short of Winnipeg. Panic... the controller told them
>     he'd get them down safely and diverted them to a disused airfield -
>     "just fly the aeroplane and let me worry about getting you down
>     safely".
>     A picnic was just about finished when the people on the ground saw the
>     plane heading for the runway (the wrong one), so they cleared off
>     sharpish. The manual also didn't show how to get the nosewheel down
>     manually either. The nose helped with braking and the jet survived to
>     fly again.
>     The captain said he was also too high on approach, so he side slipped
>     in, a technique he said he remembered from his days gliding. Apart from
>     screaming passengers, all ended well.
>     The design assumption was that both engines could never quit at the same
>     time, so whether it was just put down to pilot error and nothing done
>     since is a question to be asked and whether the same assumption holds
>     for the 777, this of course, may not have a bearing on the current
>     incident.
>     In that situation, they had lost all instruments that needed power and
>     the air pressure operated instruments were very difficult to see from
>     the pilots' seats.
>     Pilots were unhappy with just 2 engines on the Airbus flying long haul,
>     but were told that they knew nothing about aircraft design and to just
>     get on with flying. One comment that came from the makers, I believe,
>     was that aeroplanes of the future would be crewed by one pilot and a
>     dog. The pilot's job would be to feed the dog and the dog would be there
>     to bite the pilot if he touched anything other than dog food (BBC Radio
>     report).
>     Regards
>     Sid.
> 
>     --
>     Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
>     Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
>     Specialist, Cricket Coach
>     Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
> 
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