On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:02:02 +0100, Sid wrote in message 
<4de797da.1060...@blueyonder.co.uk>:

> On 02/06/11 14:12, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > * Donn Washburn -- Thursday 02 June 2011:
> >>    It also looks like they have messed with modprobe because it no
> >> longer installs the needed file in /lib/modules/kernel#### on any
> >> kernel but theirs
> >
> > I've been running (open)SuSE since version 5.2 (slackware before
> > that), and fgfs compiles and runs just fine here with nvidia's
> > drivers, just as it has almost always done. (It has just been
> > trickier at Voodoo times.) And I've been running vanilla kernels
> > and occasionally patched kernels since many years. I don't use
> > SuSE's kernels. Currently I'm on 11.4+ (Tumbleweed).
> >
> > In other words: whatever/whoever the problem is, it's not SuSE.
> > Trust me on that! You are always quick to blame SuSE after *you*
> > have messed up, once again.
> >
> > m.
> >
> 
> I have been telling Donn exactly that for ages.
> Many millions from IBM down to our 82 year old Stanley are happily 
> running openSUSE without any of the horrors he sees, yet he thinks
> the distro put out by idiots is as buggy as hell, is missing stuff
> that's already there and he can't be convinced otherwise, hard as you
> may try.
> 
> So, if you did a package by package comparison between his box and my 
> currently running 3 boxes or yours you'll find lots of core packages 
> that are not from openSUSE but are built from sources he downloaded
> from the internet and created himself with checkinstall.
> 
> He insists on mixing 11.4 and 11.4 updates repos with factory -
> unclean and headed for disaster.
> To put it bluntly, he doesn't trust the distro one bit and does his
> own re-engineering of it. The problems are his own.
> Regards
> Sid.

..actually, that modus operandi is also quite common for the FUD
turfers, but they often have problems creating problems that are 
hard enough to fix. ;o)

..the good part is they do help train the bug fixers fix the 
weird bugs, much like sadist flight sim instructors ;o), and 
the records created in mail list threads, also helps blow away 
FUD as an useful tool, everyone can see for themselves how what 
attitudes works, to fix bug and create good secure software. :o)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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