Good evening,

I am free later today.  Tomorrow morning at 10am also works for me.  Just let 
me know what works best for you.

Thanks,
Everett Zufelt
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On 2010-03-09, at 11:08 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:

> Hi Everett,
> 
> I just saw that my email from yesterday didn't get through for some reason.
> I'm usually available from early in the morning to 11am EST and on Thursday 
> and Friday until about noon.
> Is it ok for you to schedule a meeting for 10am EST tomorrow? Another option 
> is to have it later today, I can join the channel from home.
> 
> James, Tona, please feel welcome to join in.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Svetoslav
> 
> 
> Colin Clark wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This is the definitive list of ARIA roles, states, and properties supported 
>> by Safari:
>> 
>> http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html
>> 
>> It's a dismally meagre list. My guess is that we're going to have to come up 
>> with some clever design solutions to work around the limitations of Safari 
>> and VoiceOver for Engage. Maybe also invite James, Tona, or another designer 
>> to sit in on your conversation in the channel?
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 2010-03-08, at 10:25 AM, Yura Zenevich wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> I would certainly like to join the conversation. I spent quite some time 
>>> last week looking into the problem of announcing or discovering the dynamic 
>>> content in web applications on iphone safari with voice over. That problem 
>>> seems to be a pretty big challenge since, as far as I'm aware, there's no 
>>> way to force voice over cursor to focus on arbitrary elements on the page. 
>>> I also looked over a number of web based application (including the ones 
>>> from Google) and they all have similar issues with voice over visibility of 
>>> dynamic content on the web page.
>>> IRC would be great too to chat about it (today afternoon or the whole day 
>>> tomorrow work for me).
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Yura
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:18 AM, E.J. Zufelt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>> 
>>> I would like to help out with this, but I don't think that e-mail will be 
>>> the most effective medium.  Can we arrange a time to meet on IRC?  I have a 
>>> pretty flexible schedule, so any time you pick should work for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Everett Zufelt
>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter
>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010-03-08, at 9:55 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Last week I took the oportunity to work on one of the accessibility issues 
>>>> with code entry screen:
>>>> 
>>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-392
>>>> 
>>>> Here is what I found:
>>>> 
>>>> Empty static text like <span></span> is not read by VoiceOver even given a 
>>>> tabindex and a aria-label attribute. The case is that this element needs a 
>>>> relevant ARIA role. However it seems that no suitable role is supported 
>>>> for static text. I found a table of supported ARIA roles in Safari that is 
>>>> somewhat outdated (from March last year):
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/ARIA-MACRoleTests.html
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't find a newer support table. Can someone help with this?
>>>> 
>>>> Also when the static text is updated it retains its previous value (blank, 
>>>> not read by VoiceOver) as it is described here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-427
>>>> 
>>>> This prevents the code from being read once it is entered.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that somebody has some insight on how to correct these issues.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Svetoslav
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>> 
>> ---
>> Colin Clark
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>> http://fluidproject.org
>> 
>>   
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