Hi all,

Talk to you tomorrow at 10am in the channel.

Regards,

Svetoslav

E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good evening,

I am free later today. Tomorrow morning at 10am also works for me. Just let me know what works best for you.

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On 2010-03-09, at 11:08 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:

Hi Everett,

I just saw that my email from yesterday didn't get through for some reason. I'm usually available from early in the morning to 11am EST and on Thursday and Friday until about noon. Is it ok for you to schedule a meeting for 10am EST tomorrow? Another option is to have it later today, I can join the channel from home.

James, Tona, please feel welcome to join in.

Regards,

Svetoslav


Colin Clark wrote:
Hi all,

This is the definitive list of ARIA roles, states, and properties supported by 
Safari:

http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html

It's a dismally meagre list. My guess is that we're going to have to come up 
with some clever design solutions to work around the limitations of Safari and 
VoiceOver for Engage. Maybe also invite James, Tona, or another designer to sit 
in on your conversation in the channel?

Colin

On 2010-03-08, at 10:25 AM, Yura Zenevich wrote:

Hi,
I would certainly like to join the conversation. I spent quite some time last 
week looking into the problem of announcing or discovering the dynamic content 
in web applications on iphone safari with voice over. That problem seems to be 
a pretty big challenge since, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to force 
voice over cursor to focus on arbitrary elements on the page. I also looked 
over a number of web based application (including the ones from Google) and 
they all have similar issues with voice over visibility of dynamic content on 
the web page.
IRC would be great too to chat about it (today afternoon or the whole day 
tomorrow work for me).

Regards,

Yura

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:18 AM, E.J. Zufelt <[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning,

I would like to help out with this, but I don't think that e-mail will be the 
most effective medium.  Can we arrange a time to meet on IRC?  I have a pretty 
flexible schedule, so any time you pick should work for me.

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On 2010-03-08, at 9:55 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:

Hi all,

Last week I took the oportunity to work on one of the accessibility issues with 
code entry screen:

http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-392

Here is what I found:

Empty static text like <span></span> is not read by VoiceOver even given a 
tabindex and a aria-label attribute. The case is that this element needs a relevant ARIA 
role. However it seems that no suitable role is supported for static text. I found a table 
of supported ARIA roles in Safari that is somewhat outdated (from March last year):

http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/ARIA-MACRoleTests.html

I couldn't find a newer support table. Can someone help with this?

Also when the static text is updated it retains its previous value (blank, not 
read by VoiceOver) as it is described here:

http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-427

This prevents the code from being read once it is entered.

I hope that somebody has some insight on how to correct these issues.


Regards,
Svetoslav
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