Good morning,

The plan was IRC, but Skype also works for me.  Connect isn't an option for me.

Thanks,
Everett Zufelt
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On 2010-03-09, at 12:20 PM, tona monjo wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> Tomorrow at 10am EST also works for me. 
> 
> Just to confirm, are you going to meet on IRC channel? 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tona
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:11 PM, E.J. Zufelt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> I am free later today.  Tomorrow morning at 10am also works for me.  Just let 
> me know what works best for you.
> 
> Thanks,
> Everett Zufelt
> http://zufelt.ca
> 
> Follow me on Twitter
> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
> 
> View my LinkedIn Profile
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
> 
> 
> 
> On 2010-03-09, at 11:08 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everett,
>> 
>> I just saw that my email from yesterday didn't get through for some reason.
>> I'm usually available from early in the morning to 11am EST and on Thursday 
>> and Friday until about noon.
>> Is it ok for you to schedule a meeting for 10am EST tomorrow? Another option 
>> is to have it later today, I can join the channel from home.
>> 
>> James, Tona, please feel welcome to join in.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Svetoslav
>> 
>> 
>> Colin Clark wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> This is the definitive list of ARIA roles, states, and properties supported 
>>> by Safari:
>>> 
>>> http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html
>>> 
>>> It's a dismally meagre list. My guess is that we're going to have to come 
>>> up with some clever design solutions to work around the limitations of 
>>> Safari and VoiceOver for Engage. Maybe also invite James, Tona, or another 
>>> designer to sit in on your conversation in the channel?
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 2010-03-08, at 10:25 AM, Yura Zenevich wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> Hi, 
>>>> 
>>>> I would certainly like to join the conversation. I spent quite some time 
>>>> last week looking into the problem of announcing or discovering the 
>>>> dynamic content in web applications on iphone safari with voice over. That 
>>>> problem seems to be a pretty big challenge since, as far as I'm aware, 
>>>> there's no way to force voice over cursor to focus on arbitrary elements 
>>>> on the page. I also looked over a number of web based application 
>>>> (including the ones from Google) and they all have similar issues with 
>>>> voice over visibility of dynamic content on the web page.
>>>> IRC would be great too to chat about it (today afternoon or the whole day 
>>>> tomorrow work for me).
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Yura
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:18 AM, E.J. Zufelt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to help out with this, but I don't think that e-mail will be 
>>>> the most effective medium.  Can we arrange a time to meet on IRC?  I have 
>>>> a pretty flexible schedule, so any time you pick should work for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Everett Zufelt
>>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>>> 
>>>> Follow me on Twitter
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>>>> 
>>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-03-08, at 9:55 AM, Svetoslav Nedkov wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Last week I took the oportunity to work on one of the accessibility 
>>>>> issues with code entry screen:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-392
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what I found:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Empty static text like <span></span> is not read by VoiceOver even given 
>>>>> a tabindex and a aria-label attribute. The case is that this element 
>>>>> needs a relevant ARIA role. However it seems that no suitable role is 
>>>>> supported for static text. I found a table of supported ARIA roles in 
>>>>> Safari that is somewhat outdated (from March last year):
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/aria-tests/ARIA-MACRoleTests.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't find a newer support table. Can someone help with this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also when the static text is updated it retains its previous value 
>>>>> (blank, not read by VoiceOver) as it is described here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-427
>>>>> 
>>>>> This prevents the code from being read once it is entered.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope that somebody has some insight on how to correct these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Svetoslav
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