Hi Jonathan,

>Why would a implementor want to use valuenow over valuetext? What benefits 
>does it yield?

Aria-valuenow works with JAWS10/NVDA2010  in IE8/FireFox and aria-valuetext 
works with JAWS in IE8/FireFox but NVDA2010 does not work in FireFox but does 
work in IE8. I have included the test cases in my previous emails. This gives 
the integrator the option to switch between aira-valuenow and aria-valuetext. 
In aria-valuetext the information is more descriptive but in aria-valuenow, the 
user will hear only the value. Aria-valuenow will work on all tested browsers 
such as IE8,FireFox3.5.9,FireFox3.5.8 using JAWS/NVDA2010 but aria-valuetext 
will work on all tested browsers except for FireFox3.5.9 using NVDA. If we go 
with just having aria-valuenow then some integrator may want to use 
aria-valuetext and vise versa. The moral of the story is we are giving options 
to the integrator and they can decide based on their clients need which route 
to follow. Please let me know if I have answered your questions?

Please look in the progress component api for more information at 
http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Progress+API

Thanks


Golam Chowdhury
[email protected] | 416-977-6000 ext. 3962
Software Developer
Inclusive Design Research Centre (IDRC)
OCAD University
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Hung [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: Chowdhury, Golam
Cc: [email protected]; Justin Obara; [email protected]
Subject: Re: FLUID-3671 Screen reader a11y and usability issues with Progress 
(esp. lack of feedback for screen reader users)

Hi Golam,

I'm trying to understand the use case for these two modes aside from the fact 
that ValueNow helps overcome a bug in NVDA.

Why would a implementor want to use valuenow over valuetext? What benefits does 
it yield?

I'm trying to get an understanding so I can incorporate these two modes of 
progress into the new demo.

- Jonathan.

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IDRC - Interaction Designer / Researcher
Fax: (416) 977-9844



On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Chowdhury, Golam 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We have address the issue for FLUID-3671 and the latest version is available in 
the trunk. Fluid Progress component now provides the option to the integrator 
to switch between aria-valuenow and aria-valuetext. By setting the ariaBusyText 
to empty string will default to aria-valuenow and if ariaBusyText is set to 
some string then aria-valuetext will be enable. I have included some of the 
tests for the new feature and please note that we have found some issues with 
our progress demo page which we are in process of fixing.

Thanks,

Golam Chowdhury
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | 416-977-6000 ext. 3962
Software Developer
Inclusive Design Research Centre (IDRC)
OCAD University
________________________________________
From: Chowdhury, Golam
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:58 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Justin Obara
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: FLUID-3671  Screen reader a11y and usability issues with Progress 
(esp. lack of feedback for screen reader users)

Hi Everyone,

Issues with Screen Reader:
Current progress bar does not announce the progress bar status when using 
NVDA2010 screen reader using Fire Fox 3.5.9 and 3.6.9.
http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3671

Summery of our conversation in regards to finding solution for progress issue:
1. We provide a configuration option for users(implementers) to be able to 
customize the content of the aria-valuetext for the Progress component.
2. If an implementor doesn't provide anything for valuetext such as empty 
string, we fall back to using aria-valuenow. The idea here is that we let 
implementers choose what experience is best for their application.

Detail of our conversation:
http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/fluid-work+IRC+Logs-2010-09-24

Please let us know your thoughts?

Thanks,

Golam Chowdhury
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | 416-977-6000 ext. 3962
Software Developer
Inclusive Design Research Centre (IDRC)
OCAD University

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