I feel the same way. I kind of think their playing with institutionality and
protocol fits in with the Fluxus tradition of adult play.
I don't advocate anyone getting kicked off.
Alex
>From: "meryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: test x
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:56:34 -0400
>
>My goodness! Such an uproar!
>
>I get the feeling I'm the only one who thinks Eric and Tamas are funny.
>And
>I don't mean that ironically. More to the point, I believe they are very
>much aware that they're being funny. Everyone always responds to their
>posts which such dead earnestness...aincha got no sensa hewma?
>
>Come on kids,
>
>Lighten up.
>
>BadgerGirl
>
>----------
> >From: Eryk Salvaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: test x
> >Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2001, 5:00 PM
> >
>
> > Sol is over reacting. If you don't like Eric or Tamas, ignore
> > them. Censorship and ostracism is never the answer.
> >
> > What they are asking for carries no weight, and you are escalating
> > the issue and making it appear as though people are listening by
> > declaring them a threat to the list. You want to have an interesting
> > conversation, start one. Or at worst, Moderate. I may be forced to
> > moderate some of my own lists, but I will not go to kicking people
> > off who post something I don't like.
> >
> > I don't recommend you do it, either.
> >
> > -e.
> >
> > Sol Nte wrote:
> >>
> >> Tamas wrote:
> >>
> >> >If the Fluxlisters majority will vote YES,
> >> then we shall vote about the voting about
> >> the exclusion of ann klefstad.<
> >>
> >> My response:
> >>
> >> Dear Tamas and Eric,
> >>
> >> There is no question of excluding Ann from the list!
> >>
> >> I personally have had enough of your tedious agitation on this list.
>For two
> >> years now every once in a while you seem to do this and it is wearing
>very
> >> thin!
> >>
> >> Thanks to you two, Ken Friedman and others left the list.. I'm not
>prepared
> >> to see you try to drive off other people or deteriorate this list just
>for
> >> your own amusement so I'm giving you the choice to either stop this
> >> pointless agitation and contribute to the list in a positive way or I
>remove
> >> you both from the list permanently ......this decision will NOT be
>voted
> >> upon apart from by the owner group!
> >>
> >> Some of you may think it odd that I would even consider banning an
>original
> >> Fluxus artist from Fluxlist..perhaps this is why we let Eric and his
> >> sidekick Tamas get away with so much in the past........Anyway George
> >> Maciunas expelled Eric from Fluxus in the sixties so any act that's
>good
> >> enough for George Maciunas is good enough for me.
> >>
> >> To the majority of this list who make wonderful contributions and with
>whom
> >> it is a pleasure to interact online I can see that you may wonder what
>all
> >> the fuss is about. If you have the time read the archive reference in
>my
> >> earlier post and see how nasty things got the last two times Tamas and
>Eric
> >> decided to complain about the list and attack people on it. I'm afraid
>that
> >> the sort of majority decisions that these two suggest for Fluxlist
>leave
> >> Fluxlist open to abuse, their actions have in the past led to the loss
>of
> >> several contributors to the list and others feeling intimidated about
> >> posting. In fact we've let them both get away with this for far too
>long.
> >>
> >> I apologise to anyone who has just joined the list as it may seem at
>the
> >> moment that being on this list is somewhat of a waste of time. Please
>rest
> >> assured that this list has a good culture that is only occasionally
> >> compromised as is occurring at the moment. I hope anyone currently
>feeling
> >> worried about the list's value sticks with it. Those of you who've been
>on
> >> the list for a few months or more know that overall it's a great list
>and
> >> unique in its position on the web. I personally love being on Fluxlist
>and
> >> get a lot of pleasure from it which is why these two make myself and
>others
> >> pretty angry.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I'm sorry it had to come to this but I hope this is the end of
>this
> >> nonsense.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Sol.
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