Sol is over reacting. If you don't like Eric or Tamas, ignore
them. Censorship and ostracism is never the answer.
What they are asking for carries no weight, and you are escalating
the issue and making it appear as though people are listening by
declaring them a threat to the list. You want to have an interesting
conversation, start one. Or at worst, Moderate. I may be forced to
moderate some of my own lists, but I will not go to kicking people
off who post something I don't like.
I don't recommend you do it, either.
-e.
Sol Nte wrote:
>
> Tamas wrote:
>
> >If the Fluxlisters majority will vote YES,
> then we shall vote about the voting about
> the exclusion of ann klefstad.<
>
> My response:
>
> Dear Tamas and Eric,
>
> There is no question of excluding Ann from the list!
>
> I personally have had enough of your tedious agitation on this list. For two
> years now every once in a while you seem to do this and it is wearing very
> thin!
>
> Thanks to you two, Ken Friedman and others left the list.. I'm not prepared
> to see you try to drive off other people or deteriorate this list just for
> your own amusement so I'm giving you the choice to either stop this
> pointless agitation and contribute to the list in a positive way or I remove
> you both from the list permanently ......this decision will NOT be voted
> upon apart from by the owner group!
>
> Some of you may think it odd that I would even consider banning an original
> Fluxus artist from Fluxlist..perhaps this is why we let Eric and his
> sidekick Tamas get away with so much in the past........Anyway George
> Maciunas expelled Eric from Fluxus in the sixties so any act that's good
> enough for George Maciunas is good enough for me.
>
> To the majority of this list who make wonderful contributions and with whom
> it is a pleasure to interact online I can see that you may wonder what all
> the fuss is about. If you have the time read the archive reference in my
> earlier post and see how nasty things got the last two times Tamas and Eric
> decided to complain about the list and attack people on it. I'm afraid that
> the sort of majority decisions that these two suggest for Fluxlist leave
> Fluxlist open to abuse, their actions have in the past led to the loss of
> several contributors to the list and others feeling intimidated about
> posting. In fact we've let them both get away with this for far too long.
>
> I apologise to anyone who has just joined the list as it may seem at the
> moment that being on this list is somewhat of a waste of time. Please rest
> assured that this list has a good culture that is only occasionally
> compromised as is occurring at the moment. I hope anyone currently feeling
> worried about the list's value sticks with it. Those of you who've been on
> the list for a few months or more know that overall it's a great list and
> unique in its position on the web. I personally love being on Fluxlist and
> get a lot of pleasure from it which is why these two make myself and others
> pretty angry.
>
> Anyway, I'm sorry it had to come to this but I hope this is the end of this
> nonsense.
>
> cheers,
>
> Sol.
