Hi,

On Nov 21, 2007 7:28 AM, Jason Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you looked around at other programming languages because many
> already do what you want.  I'm not really aware what progress has been
> made on the graphical programming front, but declarative languages
> (e.g. Haskell) go a long way toward removing unnecessary  cruft like
> bounds checking.  There is a great deal of information out there on
> what makes programmers productive, it is only the mainstream (e.g.
> C/C++/Java/Perl/etc.) that are unaware of it.

Actually, I did look around for non-mainstream languages. I tried
Slate (prototypes with multiple dispatch, Smalltalk-like syntax),
Maude, Lisp, tried to get used to Haskell syntax (yuck!), couldn't get
through Squeak (horribly complicated UI!), and in the end I didn't
really find what I wanted. I want the simplicity of Python combined
with more power to produce less waste.

Maybe I didn't look look well enough, but none of the languages
offered anything revolutionary like the capability to easily define
specifications/protocols/formats (except for DSLs, like a network
protocol description language). It was still hacking, just with
slightly less waste. This just doesn't feel right.

> I hope this project and the others like it (I seem to find more every
> time I search on this subject) succeed in bringing systems programming
> up to the level higher level languages have been for decades.  It's
> time to stop twiddling bits and start building the future.

There are more of such projects? I haven't found anything as serious
as this one.

Bye,
Waldemar Kornewald

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