On Dec 8, 2007 5:28 PM, Jason Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007 3:05 PM, Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's not what we were talking about. You claimed that we'd need > > *less* developers with a better language, but today we have more than > > ever. How can you explain that? > > We do have more then ever, but not of the same kind. > ********Very few of > today's programmers will be applicable to tomorrow's programming > environment.************ > Though we will probably have more programmers total.
So, you're claiming that today's programmers are too stupid or ignorant for developing in tomorrow's programming environments? Do you feel so much superior? How miserable is that? > > Just tell me, why doesn't Lisp or Smalltalk force everyone to advance? > > Instead, why do languages like Python and Ruby make people advance? > > I'd really like to know how you explain that. > > Here I'm not sure what you're talking about, and I'm probably not the > only one. In what ways did Python and Ruby advance or make people > advance? Ruby's claim to fame is basically a web framework, yet both > Lisp and Smalltalk both have more advanced web frameworks. I'll ask again: why doesn't Lisp or Smalltalk force everyone to advance? Why can an (according to you) "inferior" web framework based on a slow language with (at that time) small popularity have a much greater impact than those "more advanced" frameworks and languages? Can you explain that with more than just "non-technical issues"? > >I don't care if it has Lisp-like syntax or > > whatever, but many developers do care. Without them you'll have a hard > > time building a useful infrastructure and you'll face the same > > problems as the Reddit guys and anyone else who tries to run a company > > with an unpopular language. No companies, no developers. > > Anyone else like Paul Graham who got rich by doing just that? I admit, "anyone else" is exaggerated, but if you're using a niche language you have more problems finding developers and you're more likely to run into limitations like mediocre platform support or no frameworks that fit your needs. Popular languages don't have this disadvantage and their software range steadily improves. > > > Yes it was, so please do choose your words a bit more careful in future. > > > > Are you kidding? Don't tell me how I should choose my words! > > I didn't tell you how to do anything, I asked you (note the word > please) to "choose your words a bit more careful" as in, don't throw > useless snipes in literally every email at things you appear to not > even understand. So you understand it all? Then enlighten us. What I understand is that artificially making a language unpopular is stupid. Bye, Waldemar Kornewald _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
