On 6/25/2011 3:27 AM, Bob Arning wrote:
I concur. It was mildly entertaining at points, but mostly I kept hoping they would speed up the pace while slowing down the camera switching. Since some smart people recommended it, I kept plugging away. I got a bit over half way before bailing.


I found the pseudo-Shakespeare skit kind of annoying...

also, I am more a fan of potentially useful languages, rather than esoteric/joke languages. they seemed to be focusing a lot on esoteric and joke languages though, and not so much on more practical languages.


but, the thing is that, often, the more a language moves towards being practical and useful, the more it will likely tend to resemble more mainstream languages. which I suspect more work through a sort of long-term distilation/refinement process, where useful features tend to be added eventually, and non-useful features tend to be dropped, leading to incremental improvement.

although, it is possible that a very useful language could appear which is also very unconventional, but in a general sense this is unlikely, and it is unlikely to emerge from a joke language.


a partial exception though is character-driven finite-state-machines, which are fairly useful for implementing special-purpose logic (one has a small task-specific interpreter, and writes the control logic in terms of ASCII strings, where there is no real separation between "source" and "bytecode"). my assembler and some of my lower-level VM machinery is implemented this way.

I have also used "languages" similar to the above in personal tests involving genetic programming, but have yet to find any practical use for it (GP is generally far too slow and limited IME to really be directly useful for all that much...). the advantage though of using ASCII strings though is that most mutations can then be string operations (generally with pairs of strings, usually swapping characters between them, randomly inserting or removing characters, ...). usually, the string interpreter is for a simplistic stack-machine.

IIRC, a few may have supported callable blocks as well, ...


or such...

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