On 2011-06-25, at 3:27 AM, Bob Arning wrote: > I concur. It was mildly entertaining at points, but mostly I kept hoping they > would speed up the pace while slowing down the camera switching. Since some > smart people recommended it, I kept plugging away. I got a bit over half way > before bailing.
You got further than I did. I've seen them do something similar live at OOPSLA, although that was a "debate" about OO (and it suffered from Gabriel having a bad cold at the time). This was unbearable, though, in pacing, in presentation, and what little detectable content there was. The whole "we're each going to present 50 statements of exactly 50 words" seems like it would only result in something stilted and forced, and why should we care? Is that the most important thing about your presentation (I guess so, since that's the title). It's too bad, since both these men are capable of giving great presentations and have inspiring ideas. And it is important to try new things--they don't all have to succeed. This one didn't, at least from my perspective. Nothing wrong with that, but I don't really get why it is so recommended. --Dethe > > Cheers, > Bob > > On 6/25/11 12:07 AM, Julian Leviston wrote: >> >> On 24/06/2011, at 11:42 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> >>> They gave that presentation more than once (I saw it a OOPSLA). Awesome :) >>> >>> Here's a version from JAOO'08, streams fine in Germany: >>> >>> http://blog.jaoo.dk/2008/11/21/art-and-code-obscure-or-beautiful-code/ >>> >>> - Bert - >> >> I actually thought the presentation was terrible, not very accessible and >> incredibly cliquey... it was so referential that you had to almost have >> lived through the things they were talking about to "get" whatever it was >> they were talking about - sort of self-defeating if they were aiming at >> instruction, which their last few words would indicate. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fonc mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
