On 26/07/2011, at 3:47 PM, Alan Kay wrote:

> But the dilemma is: what happens if this is the route and the children and 
> adults reject it for the much more alluring human universals? Even if almost 
> none of them lead to a stable, thriving, growth inducing and prosperous 
> civilization?
> 
> These are the issues I care about.


You seem to be seeing these two as orthogonal. I see them as mutually 
complementing. (ie we drive people to what they need through what they want... )

Julian.
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