The fact that a very powerful idea can be captured in so few lines of code is really mind-blowing. Making complex but manageable systems out of it is another subject. I find that the bigger and more complex a system grows it gets to be more about politics than about the "powerful idea".
Thanks for the reading tip Karl On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Alan Kay <[email protected]> wrote: > Take a look at Landin's papers and especially ISWIM ("The next 700 > programming languages") > > You don't so much want to learn Lisp as to learn "the idea of Lisp" > > Cheers, > > Alan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* karl ramberg <[email protected]> > > *To:* Fundamentals of New Computing <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:00 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk > > Hi, > Just reading a Lisp book my self. > Lisp seems to be very pure at the bottom level. > The nesting in p*arentheses* are hard to read and comprehend / debug. > Things get not so pretty when all sorts of DSL are made to make it more > powerful. > The REPL give it a kind of wing clipped aura; there is more to computing > than text io > > Karl > > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM, DeNigris Sean <[email protected]>wrote: > > Alan, > > While we're on the subject, you finally got to me and I started learning > LISP, but I'm finding an entire world, rather than a cohesive language or > philosophy (Scheme - which itself has many variants, Common LISP, etc). What > would you recommend to "get it" in the way that changes your thinking? What > should I be reading, downloading, coding, etc. > > Thanks. > Sean DeNigris > > You wouldn't say that "Lisp 1.5 Programmer's Manual" is outdated would > you? :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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