Re: Myth #3 - I expect is right, mostly, at least for now.

I'd be more interested in ability to distribute programs and processing
across a memory system than merely big non-volatile memory. Efficient
analog memory (a range between 0 and 1) would also be very nice for many
applications.

FPGAs have been disappointing primarily because they're almost inaccessible
to most programmers - not widely accessible across devices, difficult to
share with untrusted applications, etc.. They've been used in awesome ways,
where available, but very few programmers are privileged to manipulate them.



On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Daniel Gackle <[email protected]>wrote:

> I watched the video and got excited too. Petabits of on-chip
> non-volatile storage? that also can do logic? That's more than a
> game changer.
>
> But it seems that HP's memristor claims are controversial within the
> research community:
>
>   http://vixra.org/abs/1205.0004
>   http://www.slideshare.net/blaisemouttet/mythical-memristor
>
> Some of the dispute is about priority, which may not matter so much; I
> care less about *whom* I get massive on-chip non-volatile storage from
> than that I get it at all. But that too appears to be under dispute
> (e.g. "Myth #3" in the second link above).
>
> I would love to hear more from people who know about this.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM, David Barbour <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Shawn. Real memristors could
>> seriously change the programming landscape, and have much potential for
>> directly embedding dataflow programming models and neural networks.
>>
>> I think object dispatch and imperative C programs won't be the most
>> effective use.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Shawn Morel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Just watched a very interesting talk on memristors:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKGhvKyjgLY&feature=related
>>>
>>> I hadn't bothered going into very much detail so far - for some reason,
>>> I thought memristors would end up being primarily used as memory elements
>>> that supplant the traditional sram, dram, HDD hierarchy. That on its own is
>>> kind of cool and would probably help shift us away from files and more
>>> towards long-lived objects.
>>>
>>> The talk, however, describes ways that memristors can be organized to be
>>> an arbitrary combination of switching, memory, logic or even analog
>>> emulations of synaptic behaviour. The talk touches briefly on compiling
>>> from C down to logic gates (Russell's material implication). Some key
>>> aspects is that, as opposed to FPGAs the "reprogramming" can take place in
>>> a very short time and they addressing capabilities of a HW associative
>>> memory are quite large.
>>>
>>> For example,  it could take a few nanoseconds to create HW N-way
>>> associative lookup - that's to say, I could on the fly configure a piece of
>>> HW to actually represent object message dispatch!
>>>
>>> shawn
>>>
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