On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Cyril Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > As an engineer / hobbyist, I have been waiting for the final release of the > STEPS projet to communicate about it in my home country / language, both to > foster interest and open up perspectives for the public. > > I am glad to hear that the eventual release would not be 'final' but I am > still expecting for a release anyhow. > > > Some sort of source snapshot would allow an hobbyist like me to contribute > packaging and practical documentation. > > I was considering the packaging of Frank in a virtual machine image, and > the recording of a video demo / howto in youtube. > > > If this work is successful and gather interest, maybe we could try to get > space for an article in some development magazine, setup demos in free > software technical conferences, etc.. > > I would like community projects and scientific research to help each others. > Is there any issue of intellectual property which may prevent this ? My > uninformed opinion was that NSF funds mandated public release of all > software part of the funded research. > > > Regards, > Cyril HANSEN >
I have seen much of the code i available for peeking around various repositories on the net, but for it to run in Squeak one needs the Gezira plugin. I'm guessing VPRI had a Mac version :-) It would be cool if the code was available and someone took the time to make it run on all 3 major platforms. I'm not sure how much work it would be to port to Windows or Linux... Karl > > 2012/11/8 David Girle <[email protected]> >> >> If analogies from other industries work, it is not the role of scientists >> to deliver production ready systems, that has been the role of engineers. >> Maybe a snapshot before you push on, would allow others on this list to >> learn more from your science projects so far. >> It may help the engineers more fully understand the technologies, as some >> of us work better with papers + artifacts, rather than just papers. >> >> With respect, >> >> David >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Alan Kay <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Carl >>> >>> Just to keep on saying it ... the STEPS project had/has completely >>> different goals than the Smalltalk project -- STEPS really is a "science >>> project" -- or a collection of science projects -- that has never been aimed >>> at a deployable artifact, but instead is aimed at finding better and more >>> compact ways to express meanings. >>> >>> We did make it possible to exhibit and permute a wide range of media in >>> real-time -- it makes it much easier to show people the results of important >>> pieces of code this way -- but this is quite a ways from the packaging and >>> finishing that was done for the Smalltalks. >>> >>> However, it would be possible to do something analogous to a Smalltalk >>> from the current state of things, but we are instead pushing even more >>> deeply into "Whats" rather than "Hows". >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Carl Gundel <[email protected]> >>> To: 'Fundamentals of New Computing' <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:45 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? >>> >>> Thanks Kim. Will there be enough documentation for interested people to >>> be >>> able to build on top of VPRI's STEPS project? I'm thinking something >>> like >>> the blue book with a CDROM. :-) >>> >>> -Carl >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Kim >>> Rose >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:37 PM >>> To: Fundamentals of New Computing >>> Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> For those of you interested and waiting -- the NSF (National Science >>> Foundation) funding for the 5-year "STEPS" project has now finished (we >>> stretched that funding to last for 6 years). The final report on this >>> work >>> will be published and available on our website by the end of this >>> calendar >>> year. >>> >>> We have received some more funding (although not to the extent of this >>> original 5-year grant) and our work will carry on. That said, we're >>> always >>> looking for more funding to maintain day to day operations so we welcome >>> any >>> support and donations at any time. :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kim Rose >>> Viewpoints Research Institute >>> >>> Viewpoints Research is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to >>> improving "powerful ideas education" for the world's children and >>> advancing >>> the state of systems research and personal computing. Please visit us >>> online >>> at www.vpri.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Carl Gundel wrote: >>> >>> > Well, I do hope that VPRI has managed to find more funding money so >>> > that >>> this doesn't have to be a final STEP report. ;-) >>> > >>> > -Carl >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Loup Vaillant >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:45 PM >>> > To: Fundamentals of New Computing >>> > Subject: [fonc] Final STEP progress report? >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > The two last progress reports having being published in October, I was >>> wondering if we will have the final one soon. Have we an estimation of >>> when >>> this might be completed? As a special request, I'd like to know a bit >>> about >>> what to expect. >>> > >>> > Unless of course it's all meant to be a surprise. But please at least >>> tell me you have decided not to disclose anything right now. In any case, >>> I >>> promise I'll be patient. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Loup. >>> > >>> > PS: If I sound like a jumping impatient child, that's because right >>> > now, I feel like one. >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fonc mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fonc mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fonc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fonc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fonc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fonc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
