On 12/5/2012 4:34 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote:
We seem to have changed subjects:)

Fine then! If you can make the same camera, or a better one using less lenses, you win.

Thank you for your apology.

I'm a fan of the Hasselblad design. The detachable back end opens up a lot of possibilities. One possibility is to take test shots with the Polaroid back end, for e.g. a quick lighting test before moving on to the expensive film that goes into the standard back, wherein you can't even see what you've shot until you've developed it, which necessarily can't happen until after the shoot.
A lot of manipulation, now we have to factor in the experience of the user, and introduce a lot of artifacts that are germane to the process, not the subject. The chemical nature of the development process gets brought in, for example.
Here's why this is on topic: if we can make a camera that's completely understandable by a single individual, but can't shoot anything but black and white (bear with me, I'm playing with words and concepts a bit) because development of color photos takes too long to be practical, with a design analogous to a Hasselblad, we can just swap out the back and end up with the FONC idea that optimizations can be kept separate from meaning and the math of the meaning in a modular way, and...

Now I'm going to do something which is arguably a bit mean: for as many lenses as your SLR eschews, is it easier for you to explain concretely to a novice (for example, a small child) what your SLR does than it is for me to explain how my Hasselblad works?

I have a feeling that explaining the actual optical chip is going to be something that's very difficult. Probably, if I tried to teach a kid how a camera works, my victim would have a working camera years before yours would have a real chip that could recognize a single pixel, and my game is mostly made out of a small hole in a milk carton.

For all of humankind doing decades of this stuff, I really wish it was the other way around. You should let me play with your SLR sometime:) but I'd honestly rather die developing film in a poorly ventilated darkroom than shoot with a camera that I am neither able, nor allowed to, understand.

Does that make sense?

Casey

P.S.

This is one of the better metaphors that I've seen on the list. Awesome!


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