I'm a lurker, and an Alan Kay fanboi with vague ambitions of entering the PLT/software engineering sphere of academia one day, and this discussion has been truly fascinating.
I'm very glad there are people out there tackling these sorts of conceptual problems, as so much of the industry seems to be so wrapped up in the M$/Unix fanboi wars or milking the enterprise using 30 year old technology, or the general public with the latest social media web bubble. To everyone out there rethinking the basics, please keep up the good work. May we one day get to grip with the arch and start being able to construct actual grand cathedrals rather than shaky pyramids! Edward On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Paul Odle <[email protected]> wrote: > Casey, > > I agree with your sentiments here. > > Just a lurker. > > I have learned a lot. > > I was motivated to attempt writing a compiler in OMETA for a pet project > of mine. > > It has all been very interesting and very enjoyable. Even the trolls were > interesting and funny at times. > > Waiting for the final VPRI report. And a binary build of FRANK maybe? > > Thanks VPRI folks and all of you posters! > > Regards, > Paul Odle > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Casey Ransberger <[email protected]> > *To:* Fundamentals of New Computing <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 3:51 PM > *Subject:* [fonc] Report Card > > I wanted to send this message out after the final status report, but since > that's indefinitely delayed (keep going!) I'm just going to do it now. > > Easy question: has keeping this dialogue open been useful to the folks at > VPRI, or has it been more of a burden than anything else? > > I can definitely say that it's been very good for me, in that I learned a > hell of a lot reading all of the lovely papers posters cited. It's also > been a lot of fun meeting people who were interested in a lot of the same > things that I was. > > I'm not so happy about my own contribution though. Did I do anything at > all to advance the state of the art? Well, no. I mostly just flapped my > lips. It's asymmetrical, I learned way more than I taught. The best I could > do was play sounding board for some of Ian's ideas while dinking around > with Maru's guts. > > BTW if you haven't looked at it, Maru is way cool. > > VPRI has done something pretty awesome and weird here, in that the > dialogue was wide open the whole time. As I gather, it was in the spirit of > ARPA. We've had our share of trolls, long-winded posters (raises hand) and > just general chaos. > > I really enjoyed the guy who called us all a bunch of Alan Kay fanboys the > other day by the way. That was just priceless. Like we can't think for > ourselves! > > (Alan if I can get an autograph after this I think I'll be set.) > > So seriously, has this been worthwhile? I'm not just asking VPRI folks, > though I'm DEFINITELY asking VPRI folks, I'm also asking everyone else on > the list. > > I learned a lot, huge win for me, and we talked in circles a bunch, some > of that was fun. > > I can also think of a few parts where I felt pretty strongly that it *was* > worthwhile. To throw out an example, remember when Dale Schumacher asked > pretty poignantly whether or not the original idea behind objects/messages > was similar to the actor model? That was like a blockbuster for nerds it > was so awesome. That totally rocked. > > That's me. Okay now talk amongst yourselves go! > > ? > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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