We will have singularity and real AI? We may indeed, or perhaps the last 50 years will replay itself. Progress in artificial intelligence has moved along at a fraction of expectations.
I expect that there will be an incredible increase of eye candy, and when you strip it down to the bottom there will still be languages derived from Java, C, Python, BASIC, etc. -Carl From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Barbour Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 3:50 PM To: Fundamentals of New Computing Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned? > what will computing be in a hundred years? We'll have singularity - i.e. software and technology will be developed by AIs. But there will also be a lot of corporate influence on which direction that goes; there will likely be repeated conflicts regarding privacy, ownership, computational rights, the issue of 'patents' and 'copyrights' in a world with high-quality 3D printers, high quality scanners, and AI-created technologies. As always, big companies with deep pockets will hang on through legal actions, lobbying, lashing out at the people and suppressing what some people will argue to be rights or freedoms. Computing will be much more widespread. Sensors and interactive elements will be ubiquitous in our environments, whether we like them or not. (Already, a huge portion of the population carries a multi-purpose sensor device... smartphone. Later, they'll be out of the pockets, on the heads, active all the time.) Before singularity, we'll be able to program on-the-fly, while walking around, using augmented reality, gestures or words, even pen-and-paper [1]. After singularity, programming will be aided heavily by AI even when we want to write our own. Mr. Clippy might have more street smarts and degrees than you. And, yeah, we'll have lots of video games. Procedural generation is already a thing - creating worlds larger than any human could. With AI support, we can actually create on-the-fly, creative content - e.g. like a team of dungeon live masters dedicated to keeping the story interesting, and keeping you on the border between addicted and terrified (or whatever experience the game designer decides for you). Best, Dave [1] http://awelonblue.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/programming-with-augmented-reality/ On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:04 PM, karl ramberg <[email protected]> wrote: So what will computing be in a hundred years? Will we still painstakingly construct systems with a keyboard interface one letter at a time ? And what systems will we use ? And for what ? Will we use computers for slashing virtual fruits and post images of our breakfast on Facebook version 1000,2 ? What are the future man using computers for ? Karl On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Alan Kay <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Kevin At some point I'll gather enough brain cells to do the needed edits and get the report on the Viewpoints server. Dan Amelang is in the process of writing his thesis on Nile, and we will probably put Nile out in a more general form after that. (A nice project would be to do Nile in the Chrome "Native Client" to get a usable speedy and very compact graphics system for web based systems.) Yoshiki's K-Script has been experimentally implemented on top of Javascript, and we've been learning a lot about this variant of stream-based FRP as it is able to work within "someone else's implementation of a language". A lot of work on the "cooperating solvers" part of STEPS is going on (this was an add-on that wasn't really in the scope of the original proposal). We are taking another pass at the "interoperating alien modules" problem that was part of the original proposal, but that we never really got around to trying to make progress on it. And, as has been our pattern in the past, we have often alternated end-user systems (especially including children) with the "deep systems" projects, and we are currently pondering this 50+ year old problem again. A fair amount of time is being put into "problem finding" (the basic idea is that initially trying to manifest "visions" of desirable future states is better than going directly into trying to state new goals -- good visions will often help "problem finding" which can then be the context for picking actual goals). And most of my time right now is being spent in extending environments for research. Cheers Alan _____ From: Kevin Driedger <[email protected] <mailto:linuxbox%[email protected]> > To: Alan Kay <[email protected]>; Fundamentals of New Computing <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned? Alan, Can you give us any more details or direction on these research projects? ]{evin ])riedger On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Alan Kay <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Dan It actually got written and given to NSF and approved, etc., a while ago, but needs a little more work before posting on the VPRI site. Meanwhile we've been consumed by setting up a number of additional, and wider scale, research projects, and this has occupied pretty much all of my time for the last 5-6 months. Cheers, Alan _____ From: Dan Melchione <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned? Haven't seen much regarding this for a while. 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