Hello Vincent!

--- Vincent Hennebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [Web Maestro Clay]
> > It would be *great* if some enterprising and
> generous developer could spend 
> > the time to generate FOP-based XSL-FO documents
> from the XML, XSLT and XPath
> >  specs. In fact, that would be a useful tool for
> comparing how fop-0.20.5 
> > compares to fop-1.0-dev (the FOP re-design/TRUNK
> branch). Unfortunately, that
> >  hasn't been a priority up to this point. Perhaps
> it could become a priority
> >  in the future.
> [Jeremias]
> > Oh, it would be sooooo cool if we could have our
> own PDF of the XSL 1.0 
> > specification [1]. The official PDF was created by
> RenderX. I thought about 
> > doing a stylesheet for that myself but I'm
> currently so busy coding on FOP 
> > 1.0dev that I'd be more than happy if someone from
> the user community could 
> > do that. It would also be interesting to compare
> FOP 0.20.5 and FOP 1.0dev 
> > which is under development.
> [Glen]
> > Doughnuts are great!  I really like them.

> Hi Fop team,
> would there be anything wrong with using RenderX'
> XSLT stylesheet to produce a
> pdf whith Fop? 

Probably, right now, because if we modify it it would
still be copyrighted by RenderX, so we can't have it
on our site, etc.  We must be very careful to stay
away from their work (I will flatter myself into
thinking that some of them are even subscribed to this
ML ;), and not have their work show up in one form or
another within our project.

So I think we should wait on this until the W3C makes
up its own stylesheet without extensions, and makes
the same stylesheet publicly available for any XSL
processor to run.

What may be more "cool"--and a much better selling
point for FOP anyway--is for the Docbook XSL/PDF
stylesheets to work well with 1.0 (0.20.5 already does
a pretty good job with Docbook PDF generation.)  I
think that's a nicer target than the RenderX
stylesheet, much more practical for our user base, and
avoids the copyright headaches.  But it is indeed a
lot more work.

> Anyway, I have it on my disk and tried to run Fop
> over it. Well, bad news so far ;-(
> Fop 0.20.5 stops at p.16 whith an error message
> (Flow 'xsl-region-body' does not
> map to the region-body in page-master 'blank-page').
> This is the page where
> there is just "This page is intentionally left
> blank".

We don't care much for making changes to 0.20.5
anymore.  We focus on 1.0.

> Fop 1.0dev (freshly checked out) crashes with a
> NoSuchMethodError.

Now *that* is of interest for us.  

> I can provide details if needed (in form of a
> Bugzilla entry?).

Sure for 1.0, please.

> I could adapt the stylesheet to introduce Fop
> extensions (at least for the
> 0.20.5 version, I don't think they are available in
> 1.0dev?), 

No--because again we don't want it anywhere on our
site--please don't send it to us--it is RenderX's
stylesheet, not ours.  It is better not to even look
at it, lest our ideas for a similar stylesheet end up
coming from their work.  (For FOP, BTW, the bookmark
extensions from 0.20.5 were removed in favor of the
1.1 fo:bookmark-tree & Co. formatting objects.)

> and perhaps to
> circumvent Fop's current flaws. If it may be useful
> to the Fop team I would be
> glad to help.

You would be most welcome here.


(BTW, checked your ENSEEIHT website -- looks like a
wonderful place for a person to grow.)

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