On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:33 pm, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> On 19.10.2005 03:45:33 Manuel Mall wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:44 am, Jeremias Maerki wrote:

> Still, I get the impression that *-treatment
> are both handled before white-space-collapse.

Yes, linefeed-treatment is definitely a refinement activity (and pretty 
simple) and handled before white-space-collapse. But 
white-space-treatment is not refinement and this is where we differ (I 
think). white-space-treatment clearly depends on the line breaks 
generated, that is you cannot do white-space-treatment without having 
the line breaks. But we can only generate appropriate line breaks if we 
have collapsed the white space before. To me this means, together with 
the fact that white-space-collapse is defined on fo's and 
white-space-treatment on glyph areas, that white-space-collapse 
precedes white-space-treatment.

> Because line-feed-treatment may generate spaces which are not yet
> handled by white-space-treatment but later picked up by
> white-space-collapse. At least that is my take.

See above.

> Anyway, this is like fishing in the dark. I have big trouble (again)
> understanding the spec. Obviously, you found a lot of little details
> that don't really resolve well. All we can do here is make guesses.
> This is really frustrating.

I couldn't agree more!!!!

> Jeremias Maerki


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