No, the PDF image extension is something else. That's an adapter to
integrate external PDFs. I believe this should be included directly into
the PDFRenderer like I started it. However, since I don't know what a
"spread layout" is, and what exactly you really need overall, I'm not
sure if I see the whole picture, yet. Anyway, you certainly need to
specify the amount of bleed (what I started). My patch uses
fox:bleed="4mm" (as an example) on the fo:simple-page-master. Then, you
might want to specify the actual media size which could be done as
fox:media-width and fox:media-height, following the same pattern as with
fox:bleed. Like Oliver, you will probably need to paint cut marks once
you start using bleed. I have some ideas there. Let's get to that when
the first steps are done. So far, I don't see anything too complicated
for you.

Finally, you need to be able to paint outside the trim box. That's easy,
since you can always use negative coordinates or spaces. I hope that
helps.

Let me know if I have an incomplete picture.

On 21.10.2008 17:03:19 Maximilian Gaerber wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> so there we go... I guess since this is only on the FO 2.0 wish list 
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xslfo20-req-20080326/#bleeds) this would 
> be an extension for now? 
>
> Would you advise to take your pdf-image extension as a starting point?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Max
> 
> Jeremias Maerki schrieb:
> > On 21.10.2008 16:31:02 Maximilian Gaerber wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi Jeremias,
> >>
> >> Jeremias Maerki schrieb:
> >>     
> >>> That was discussed some time ago. You might want to read up on the
> >>> status here: http://fop.markmail.org/search/?q=trimbox
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Yep, that's what I found before posting my question.
> >>     
> >>> I've prepared FOP so TrimBox, BleedBox and MediaBox can all be set [1].
> >>> But the wiring into an extension hasn't been completed, yet.
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=618626&view=rev
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Alright, so these methods can't be accessed through configuration etc. 
> >> right now. I find
> >>
> >> setBleedBox(box); ///Recommended by PDF/X
> >> /
> >> very interesting, because I thought it would be quite common to have a 
> >> bleed area in professional layouts. 
> >>     
> >
> > So the lack of support didn't cause enough of an itch to anyone to
> > implement it. I hope you're going to itch enough because I currently don't.
> >
> >   
> >> /
> >>
> >>     
> >>> I've attached a patch which comes from a working copy where I started an
> >>> implementation for bleed. Not sure if it already does anything useful,
> >>> but it could be a starting point. HTH
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Thanks for the patch. So I guess I'll have to build FOP from source then 
> >> ;-)  FOP does not support customization (like User-Exits), does it? I am 
> >> willing to test and code a little but modifying FOP core sources is out 
> >> of scope of my current project.
> >>     
> >
> > FOP provides lots of extension points. And since you have the source,
> > in some cases you can subclass certain classes if you must. But that
> > might not help you here. Better for the project would be to do it right
> > and integrate the functionality into FOP. This could be a great
> > opportunity to contribute something back to the project. That's how FOP
> > got where it is: People scratched their itches. Of course, you can also
> > just wait until someone thinks this is fun to implement. It's how Open
> > Source works.
> >
> > Remember: You're not alone if you implement this. We're going to help
> > you with hints and pointers as much as we can. Just keep us in the loop
> > to avoid late surprises.
> >
> >   
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Max
> >>     
> >>> On 21.10.2008 15:11:58 Maximilian Gaerber wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> what is the current status of xsl-fo concerning a Spread-based Layout 
> >>>> (like InDesign uses)?
> >>>>
> >>>> I need to change an existing layout to support blocks/graphics that 
> >>>> bleed off the page. I know I could use a custom page size to add the 
> >>>> extra area but the resulting PDF won't be correct in terms of Trim Box 
> >>>> etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> What would be the best way to implement such a feature? Add another 
> >>>> extension?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Max
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
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