1. If it's actually printing the wrong font that's a different issue.
We'd have to see your font code for that.  That would be everything in
the font tags in the xconf file if you're using one, or your font
loading method if you're using embedded code, plus the text in the fo
which references the font triplet values.
2. What do you mean by lightness?  Are you using the PSRenderer and/or
TIFFRenderer to send output directly to a printer, to the same printer,
back to back?  Are you somehow using both renderers to generate image
files to compare, or comparing something printed to something on the
screen?  Did you use the PSRenderer to send output directly to a printer
and the TIFFRenderer to create an image file then send that image file
to the printer?  It sounds like we need more details on what you're
trying to do.  It sounds like you may be comparing apples to oranges.
 

________________________________

From: Marquart, Joshua D [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Glenn Adams
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Font Weight



I was just doing research on this topic, came back here to supplement my
message with info, and saw you already beat me to it.

 

Helpful method: getFontInfo().dumpAllTripletsToSystemOut()

 

So... yes, I do not have fonts installed for font weights of 300, 500,
etc. and that would account for resolving to 400/700.

 

The problem I'm seeing is when generating a PostScript and a Tiff from
the same xsl-fo file.

The text generated in the Tiff (for the 400 weight) appears much lighter
than identical text in the PostScript and is likely due to using the
Java2DRenderer vs. the PsRenderer.

 

Oddly, when I set the font to Arial in the xsl-fo:

- the font in the resulting PostScript appears Times Roman

- the font in the resulting Tiff is identical to the font used in the
Tiff when Helvetica was specified.

 

Other than hunting down, installing and registering a weight 500 or so
font for Helvetica or Arial (where might I find one?  No idea.), are
there other options that might I employ to lessen the lightness of the
400-weight ?

 

Thanks,

 

-Josh

 

From: Glenn Adams [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:02 PM
To: Marquart, Joshua D
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Font Weight

 

Josh,

 

What you have not said yet is whether you actually have (on your system)
a font with the desired weight or not. Specifically, do you actually
have installed multiple font instances with the distinct weights you
wish to reference? If you do not, then it doesn't do much good to
discuss referring to them.

 

On the other hand, if you do have distinct faces with weights 300, 500,
600, 800, 900, etc., installed, then it is merely a matter of ensuring
that the reference in your FO file correctly maps to the associated font
instance. That can be handled in different ways.

 

So please answer whether you do have the fonts installed in the first
place with these weights.

 

G.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Marquart, Joshua D
<[email protected]> wrote:

"FOP does not synthesize fonts with different weights. You need to
supply the fonts with the weights you specify in FO content."

 

I understand Fop doesn't synthesize the weights.  I understand that it
has two specific built-in weights (700 and 400) that are being used to
replace other weights per the following:

 

When I set-up using a Java2DRenderer and specify the following FO
content snippets:

 

<fo:table-cell font-size="10pt" font-family="Helvetica"><fo:block
line-height="13pt">

<fo:block white-space-collapse="true">

<fo:inline font-weight="900">900 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="800">800 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="700">700 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="600">600 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="500">500 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="400">400 Weight </fo:inline>

...

<fo:inline font-weight="300">300 Weight </fo:inline>

</fo:block></fo:block></fo:table-cell>

...

 

the logger gives me the following information:

 

WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,900" not found. Substituting with
"Helvetica,normal,700".

WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,800" not found. Substituting with
"Helvetica,normal,700".

WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,600" not found. Substituting with
"Helvetica,normal,700".

WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,500" not found. Substituting with
"Helvetica,normal,400".

WARNING: Font "Helvetica,normal,300" not found. Substituting with
"Helvetica,normal,400".

 

So I would need to supply very specific replacement fonts for
Helvetica,normal,900 ( and 800-300, not counting 400)?

(Same as above when replacing Helvetica with Arial).

 

I DO understand the following:

 

1- that per the current specs, item 7.9.9 for font-weight has a "TODO
<relative> font weights" message.

2 - that per the current build, the font classes generated from
Helvetica.xml and HelveticaBold.xml are used for 400 and 700
respectively

3 - that per the fuzzy replacement, 700 is used for 900-600 and 400 is
used for 500-100(probably).

 

So my questions still stand

1 - is there a simpler way to use / access / apply a darker 500 or 600
weight Helvetica and if so, what's the best process to handle it given
the codebase?

2 - should I instead render a "Helvetica500.xml" and generate the
appropriate font class; obviously since that's not yet been done with
the existing fop codebase, it is probably a lot more work than needed.

3 - Any other option I should pursue?

 

If there is a process started to handle item 7.9.9, I would be happy to
pitch in and help, I am just not certain where to start.

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

From: Glenn Adams [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Marquart, Joshua D
Subject: Re: Font Weight

 

FOP does not synthesize fonts with different weights. You need to supply
the fonts with the weights you specify in FO content.

 

Regards,

Glenn

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Marquart, Joshua D
<[email protected]> wrote:

I have a question about Font Weight.

 

We're using Helvetica and using FOP to take the FO file and generate it
as both (1) a PostScript file and (2) a TIFF file.  

 

Additionally, we are able to use third-party software to take the
PostScript file and convert it directly to a second TIFF file (for
comparison reasons).

 

Of course, the fonts on the TIFF from FOP are a little pixilated and the
"normal" font could stand to be rendered a bit darker.

 

I am using Helvetica and tried to set the font-weight to 500 or 600, but
it gets replaced with weight 400, which is apparently the "normal"
Helvetica font registered in the system.

Font-weight Bold and values of 800 and 900 use the "bold" Helvetica
which is weight 700.

 

Is there an easy way to use / access a darker 500 or 600 weight
Helvetica, or possibly render the or am I really sunk here?

 

I've already extended the Java2DRenderer,  for my own purposes.  

 

The following Graphics2D rendering hints don't seem to do much when
included:

 

graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_FRACTIONALMETRICS,
RenderingHints.VALUE_FRACTIONALMETRICS_ON);

graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_ANTIALIASING,
RenderingHints.VALUE_ANTIALIAS_ON);

graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_TEXT_ANTIALIASING,
RenderingHints.VALUE_TEXT_ANTIALIAS_ON);

graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_RENDERING,
RenderingHints.VALUE_RENDER_QUALITY);

graphics.setRenderingHint(RenderingHints.KEY_STROKE_CONTROL,
RenderingHints.VALUE_STROKE_PURE);

 

Suggestions would be very helpful.

 

Much thanks,

 

Josh 

 

________________________________

The information in this message may be proprietary and/or confidential,
and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering
this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly
prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
notify First Data immediately by replying to this message and deleting
it from your computer. 

Reply via email to