Am 12.04.17 um 18:21 schrieb Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:02:34PM +0200, Marek Hulán wrote:
Thanks guys so far, I'm sending comments below in text that are also relevant
for lzap's comments in previous email.
On středa 12. dubna 2017 16:56:52 CEST Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:
I second that there are cases where "ago" is preferred. For the last
puppet run on the host page it's much easier to know if it was an hour
ago. Then I don't have to try and remember what day and time it is.
However, in a table of all puppet reports then the exact date is the
correct unit. The table of reports with a list of "about 1 month ago"
has been an annoyance
I agree that sometime it's more convenient. On reports page it might be
interesting only for reports that arrived withing last few hours though. IMHO
the consistency is the key here, I'd like to avoid showing 15 minutes ago for
times < few hours and full info for the rest. Most of reports on the page
(older than few hours) would benefit from the full format. Therefore I think
full format with "ago" information as tooltip might be the best compromise?
On the reports (where you see multiple) then I think the "ago" format
isn't useful because the granularity is too low so it's hard to compare.
IMHO in a list they should all have the same format. On a host page
where you see "Last report: 1 hour ago" it does make sense. I hope that
clarifies it.
I totally agree. Let's not drop the "time ago in words" format entirely.
It does make sense in a lot of places, especially reports or
certificates or when a host was created. As a user you probably don't
care for the exact time. You just want to know approximately when it
happened.
E.g. when you push new puppet code to your production servers and start
to get calls that something is broken, it's enough to know that there
are puppet reports that indicate a change happend to your servers within
the last hour. As puppet runs happen, when they happen (and the time
when puppet applies changes is hard to predict) an exact timestamp isn't
useful as your cluster slowly starts to degrade over time.
- Timo
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